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On men being natural leaders, I've read that the stereotype of "men as hunters" is somewhat ahistorical when it came to actual hunter-gatherer societies. So it makes me wonder, when exactly did that idea come about?
Victorians. They had a rather jacked up view of history
It's worse. Much worse than that.
It's the 1960s.
The 1966 books Man the Hunter is pretty much the origin story of the whole assumption of an evolutionary division of labor where males hunted as providers and females gathered and cared for children.
For a change we can't even blame the Victorians. We can blame the Age of Aquarius.
Why would anyone ever blame the Victorians for anything?
They brought us wonderful things such as steamships and child labour!
don't forget the drugs. oh the drugs
I know, it was a shock to me too. The people who originated most of the toxic "sciences" that put white men on top weren't actually to blame for an incredibly toxic faux-scientific theory. Very rare.
I've been reading "Daily Life in Victorian England" by Sally Mitchell recently and everything I read as a big social improvement necessarily implies that this is not how it worked beforehand.
That's really interesting
The answer is usually around the Industrial Revolution, but I feel like this was way earlier.
It's kind of crazy how much baseline pop history can be traced back to "some Victorian dude made it up".