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[–] brezel@piefed.social 106 points 5 days ago (2 children)
  • some people run more than 1 OS
  • some people actually program and need to load unsigned shit all the time
  • some people have legacy hardware that doesn't run with secureboot
  • it is my decision and my decision alone how i boot my operating systems. not EA's.
[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Im fairly certain any legacy hardware that doesn't have secure boot as an option is going to struggle loading BF6 regardless.

The first two points are not related to secure boot at all.

[–] brezel@piefed.social 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

you think loading my own kernel modules is not related to secure boot? i guess you don't work in IT then.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Most people who work IT don't even know what a kernel is, tbf

[–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I recently had an rfid scanner immediately rma-d back that had just been returned to us. The new issue was caused by a setting and not by a defect. I asked our IT/help desk if it WAS a setting that could be changed

"I don't know. I get the thing, I check these settings, I check those settings, that's all I know"

😑😑😑

So me and another person are out of our equipment for another couple weeks while the scanner is sent back for "repairs" and the repair people will go "😑 tap tap tap idiots"

(Edit: I know it's a setting because I talked with the other person who uses it and I explained the issue and he let me know it is something he changes)

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

It doesn't matter which kernel modules are used, as long as you have signed those changes before rebooting.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You can't install most linux distributions with secure boot enabled.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is outdated information. Linux has supported secure boot for quite a while now.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you have any advice for someone that dual boots SteamOS and Windows 10 on a Steam Deck?

I've heard online that since SteamOS manually signs keys or something, that if any changes happen to the kernel that later need to be updated by SteamOS, I'd need to re-sign the keys or whatever. Idk I'm not well versed in any of this

I've heard it's as easy as downloading the M$ keys to enable Secure Boot, but I also don't want to brick my Deck.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Windows 10 support is ending soon so there’s no reason to have it on your steam deck. Steam will stop supporting it sooner after Microsoft does, just like steam does with Apples operating system.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Windows 10 commercial is ending, not the LTSC versions. Those are good for another 2-7 years iirc

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, they are killing it unless you pay and extra $30 a month and use a Microsoft account and kill local accounts.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's for commercial releases of Windows 10 dumbass. There are two other enterprise releases that will have free security updates for 2-7 more years.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which is again proving my point. Steam is selling games to people with enterprise licenses.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

You never made that point. Stop moving the goal posts.

Do we have any evidence that Steam will not supported anything Windows 10 related, given that commercial licenses are ending and many people are shifting to enterprise licenses?

And it's not like Steam hasn't already been doing this. People have used enterprise licenses for legit and nefarious purposes for years. I doubt they'd change anything in October. They aren't owned by M$

[–] _cryptagion@quokk.au 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And Microsoft is shutting out most third parties in the near future because of Crowdstrike, so Linux likely won't be supporting Secure Boot in the future, even if someone did want to enable it for some odd reason.

[–] cole@lemdro.id 6 points 4 days ago

Microsoft can't stop you from signing images with your own keys.

That's what I do, and it's almost entirely automated on Linux these days.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Microsoft’s kicking third parties out of the kernel because of crowdstrike. Secure boot is a completely different thing Microsoft can’t kick people out of.

[–] troed@fedia.io 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Really? Which would those be? So far I haven't come upon one.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] troed@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that simply isn't true. I use Secure Boot on all my Linux installs - both in the deb and rpm ecosystem system.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 4 points 4 days ago

Sorry, I read it backwards -- we agree, most Linux distributions do support Secure Boot