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Ford seems to be refocusing it’s #EV efforts towards smaller, less expensive EVs with cheaper battery technology in an effort to stay relavent given the low cost EVs coming out of China. This is in contrast with GMs efforts which seem to lean towards larger SUVs and trucks.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Their PR shows a “universal EV platform” that shows a sedan, a truck, and an SUV. So we will have to see if they build a sedan on it. If they do, I’m not holding my breath that they’ll ship it in North America. It’s a shame because I’d love to see an electric Escort/Focus.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A sedan with a truck chassis will drive terribly.

And I bet it’ll be really tall, not just cause of the battery pack but also because car buyers are old people who don’t want to climb out of their car.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The maverick is built on the same platform as the ford focus.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

And the Mach E is derived from that platform too. They're building a BEV Maverick for sure.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but that's going the other direction, like how the Honda Ridgeline is based on the pilot. And it makes the truck worse for the same reason cars with truck chassis are worse.

Now if people would be willing to buy passenger cars and let trucks be trucks we wouldn't have this problem.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well they are more a class of UTE, its just americans think anything with a bed is a 'truck'. Personally wish el caminos style would make a come back.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I'd love me a ute but Americans don't buy trucks for utility, they buy it because they've been taught to hate station wagons and minivans

[–] SanctimoniousApe 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

sedan with a truck chassis will drive terribly.

I'm no vehicle aficionado, so I don't know just how bad you're thinking it will be. Regardless, if they can make it tolerable then I'd think all it needs is to be functional and cheap to find an audience - particularly if most of their competition is focused elsewhere.

car buyers are old people

What?!?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The last cars that had truck chassis were the giant land yachts from the 70s, but even they were on car-body frames and still drove terribly.

How many people under 40 have the $700/month car payment and $300 a month for insurance on a new car?

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

2011 Lincoln Towncar has entered the chat

[–] SanctimoniousApe 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

$700/mo for a $30-$40K car seems like a raw deal to me, but I'll admit it's been quite a while since I shopped for a new car. Insurance shouldn't be that high over 30 unless you're in a bad area (or have a bad record).

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The average new car price is closer to $50k, with SUVs and luxury cars sometimes going up to $100k.

But the big problem is interest rates. Even with great credit you could be looking at 10-15%, and loans of 20-25% aren’t uncommon.

Pair that with 84-120 month loans and things get crazy quick

[–] SanctimoniousApe 2 points 2 days ago

I'm vaguely aware of the typical price range, but I was sticking closer to the price mentioned in OP as the topic of discussion.

Those rates are indeed insane - especially over such a long term. I guess I can see why you say it's only old people if that's truly the case, but it also seems like sales suicide for manufacturers to allow that to remain the case.