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Too often there is this separation we invent where misogyny is a ubiquitous tool of patriarchy while misandry is somehow separate. This becomes so intense that many are not even able to admit that misandry is even theoretically possible, and even if it's undeniable it is still seen as highly irrelevant to patriarchy.

But misandry does advance patriarchy and it is a force that intensifies misogyny.

Consider homophobia. This is an obvious case where misandry advances heretopatriarchy. Certain men can entrench their status through an infrastructure of hatred against homosexual men that can be accessed by nearly everyone else as well.

Consider transphobia. Another obvious realm where misandry is at play. Trans men are shown hatred in ways that are unique to the experience of cis men, and these experiences drive cis heteronormativity.

Consider how our actions and ideas impact the world. If we live in denial of misandry we live in denial of patriarchy. Denying misandry does not make you a quality feminist. It does not make you theoretically sound. Hating men just gets in the way of challenging patriarchy.

Consider how misandry enforces gender roles. Misandrous discourse functions to discipline people. When misandry is denied, there is almost always an element of "you have to man up, because women are weak." The narrative is familiar; women are subjected to patriarchal violence and are thus too hysterical to have sound or reasonable options about men, thus, men must internalize misandrous attitudes out of sheer emotional intelligence and masculine willpower. The men who fail to do this are weak, unable to maintain a rational, stoic attitude and are thus lesser, unmasculine men. Men who can master their performance of masculinity in a self-denying or sacrificial way will benefits from misandry but will certainly be thoroughly disciplined by it.

Women, other non men genders,and queer communities often play a role in policing masculinity for patriarchy which may obfuscate the patriarchal power at play. This ultimately reinforces misogyny by haphazardly enforcing binaries, devaluing feminity, and promoting a supremacist view of masculinity.

Let me paint a situation. Imagine a comedian making a joke about their trans wife; that she removed the worst part of her--being a man. Everyone laughs in support of trans women and implicitly they laugh AT trans men and cis men. Next joke is about how stupid bisexual women are for dating men, how they make the queer community worse.

Now imagine you are a man who wants a little clarity in life. How should you feel about such language which is clearly both misandrous and misogynistic? How should you feel that it is directed at you, as a man? I'll tell you:

You should feel safe because you are a man. If you don't feel safe it's because you are a weak man, incapable of performing.

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[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

These are just men’s rights talking points. Why exactly are you laundering them here?

this is a reactionary who was banned for transphobia, came back, then immediately doubled down. MRA shit is expected tbh

[–] sunbleachedfly@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

😭 & here I am taking them seriously

[–] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Never stop explaining

[–] whogivesashit@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Why are we not doing perma bans for repeat offenders?

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I wasn't banned for transpohobia, because I never once said anything against trans people and never even mentioned gender.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
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[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 1 month ago

I never said anything against trans people so that was bs.

[–] sunbleachedfly@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ohhhh I remember you on that transphobia post. This is the first post you decided to comment on after that? To defend men?...................

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What ''transphobia''?

Saying that denying and encouraging sexism is bad is apparently such an abhorrent thing equivalent of defending Hitler according to you.

[–] sunbleachedfly@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You compared intersex people to a genetic deformity

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn't even mention them, i'm not even sure I heard of the term before that but I mentioned ambiguous genitalia.

[–] sunbleachedfly@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Haven't heard the term before but decided to comment on it!

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It didn't have anything to do with that, I was talking about ambiguous genitalia which someone was claiming to be third sex or whatever.

[–] sunbleachedfly@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 1 month ago

You don't have a point.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 month ago