this post was submitted on 12 Aug 2025
192 points (97.5% liked)

News

31592 readers
3550 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] LinguisticKerosene@lemmy.wtf -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What can I tell you, this lesson here (mind you from the university of Chicago) is pretty compelling no? Video

why there is never nuance with this topic? Again the US is responsible for numerous war crimes for decades, it’s not crazy to think they did it on purpose.

If we make a deal, you break it and i get mad, you can’t tell me “oh wo wo what are you so mad?”, pretend nothing happened and call me crazy.

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't pretend like Mearsheimer is some sort of objective observer, he's a fountain of wacky convictions. It's also wild to use 'get mad' as a euphemism for military conquest and genocide.

Can we at least agree to call a spade a spade? Russia annexing Ukraine by force is military expansion. If we can put that to bed then the only issue in contention is determining if it was unprovoked or not. If we can't agree on such a plainly obvious fact then I have misgivings we can come to an understanding at all.

[–] LinguisticKerosene@lemmy.wtf -3 points 2 days ago

Nah comon bro, dont attack the source. Let’s work on the argument. We live in a post-truth world, everyone can be discredited.

Can we at least agree to call a spade a spade? Russia annexing Ukraine by force is military expansion.

Yes, but I don’t really believe Russia’s goal is to expand. I agree with the professor that Russia doesn’t have the power (but also willingness) to expand and successfully maintain a “European russian colony”.

The way I see it is: Nato e Russia decided to not expand anywhere after the cold war. However NATO broke this pact and started expanding east (when they signed the agreement there NATO and Russia were geographically very far apart). We didn’t give signs of slowing down or admitting we broke a peaceful pact, we actually accelerated and promoted “red scare” propaganda tactics to discredit Russia.

So I can clearly see Putin say: “If you only understand war then I can also use your language”.

You should read about the Orange revolution, where NATO, US and EU fabricated news and speculations about fraud and changed the election.

I just wish there was a bit more honesty with ourselves and the world. As a european, if we really want to point fingers to other people’s faults and mistakes, we should first look inside and in our past, without justifying ourselves.