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I'm not gonna say I agree with this or defend censorship but when your country got invaded by the most famous communist country in history and had a bad time under their rule, then it's quite understandable why people there don't like symbols associated with said country.
The entire affair is just a mess of history. A fascist dictatorship being replaced with a communist one.
Look who was constantly working for the independence of Finland from the Russian Empire (bolsheviks), look who actually did helped and allowed Finland to become independent (bolsheviks), look what happened in Finland after independence (revolution was drowned in blood by protofascists), look who supported white army general Yudenich invasion of RSFSR (Finland plus Estonia and UK), look who supported head white general Kolchak even though Kolchak explicitly denied Finland independence (Finnish "hero" Mannerheim).
Finnish counterrevolutionary romance, or more actually marriage with fascism didn't started in 1940, it started in 1917 by attacking communists with the help of every protofash possible.
I didn't say that the dislike for the symbol was rational; I just said that I understand how people could come to dislike it.
You thought Finland was part of the Soviet Union, maybe you should just go educate yourself.
You mean, except over century of being governed and/or allied by fascists?
>"I'm not gonna say I agree with this or defend it..."
>Proceeds to agree with it and defend it
I hope your realise that people can understand why others think in a certain way without agreeing with that way of thinking. You seem to think that because I said that I can understand why Finnish people might not like the hammer and sickle, I must therefore support banning it. I don't.
It doesn't matter what you intended to do. You ended up defending Finland's decision. People are not going to pour over your background and study your life in details to say "NateNate60 is a swell guy". They're going to read your previous comment and say yeah, you defended Finland banning communist symbols because they allied with the nazis 80 years ago and are still salty about getting their ass handed to them when they joined in the siege of Leningrad.
Curiously, liberals always try to "put in the shoes" of the fascists but never of the commies.
Gonna start using SAL (scratch a liberal)
One of the many curiosities of the world along with the bearded lady (she has a hormonal imbalance) and Houdini's daring escapes.
If you’re doing a devil’s advocate of something you don’t support, you should critique it.
Otherwise it has “I’m not racist but insert racism” vibes
Considering you phrased it "[their] country got invaded" by the USSR, there seems to be some real overlap
Most informed liberal.
I'd like to hear more about this alternative history you got rolling around your skull where Finland became communist. I live in the reality where they joined nazis (as Stalin knew they would, which is why he had to move the border away from Leningrad), participated in starving a city to death and threw POWs into death camps, not the other way around. And then they turned around, seeing the writing on the wall, and avoided justice that way.
And now they're still nazis.
Finland was never communist though. When the Russian Empire became the Soviet Union, the Finnish government asked to secede, and Stalin (who was minister for nationalities) convinced everyone to let them have independence. Finland then became independent without a fight.
Even after the winter war Finland never became communist.
I would not say without a fight. The Finnish Whites massacred the Finnish Reds (...and by extension anyone at all thought to be sympathetic to workers).
https://www.marxists.org/archive/serge/1930/year-one-sa/finland2.html
Finland was socialist for a short while before their revolution was drowned in blood by reactionaries. Also it's not just "Stalin convincing everyone", Finland independence or at least autonomy was one of the constant communist points since tsar crackdowned on Finland in 1890's.
What were they doing before being invaded?
Maybe participating in a lil seige, just a cheeky lil seige of Leningrad?
Tbf the siege of Leningrad happened after.
And just to be clear, in case any historical revisionists are reading this: the Continuation War was not the USSR invading Finland, it was Finland invading the USSR alongside Nazi Germany.
Oh yeah, tbh I'm always get that confused with something they did earlier. Was it letting the Nazis invade though a corridor of land?