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[โ€“] Tomassci@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is this about the KPD going more against the SPD than the NSDAP? I mean, let's be real; the SPD did fuck up by killing Rosa Luxemberg, who was probably the best Marxist in the party, and was quite libertarian.

But, the KPD should've gone harder against the Nazis, and not a lukewarm "after Hitler our turn". They could've galvanized the population, and instead they supported it.

[โ€“] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Luxemburg was against the KPD Spartacist uprising which led to her death by the half-controlled Freikorps which constituted the main force of the Weimar Republic in the immediate aftermath of WW1.

Her death was deeply unjust, being a matter of torture and execution by brutal paramilitary thugs; but it would also be difficult to say that the Weimar Republic choosing to meet a violent uprising with violence in defense of upcoming democratic elections was an unambiguously immoral decision. It would be absurd to say, for example, that the newly formed Weimar government should have just allowed themselves to be couped - and the stipulations of Germany's then-recent WW1 surrender put very few forces at their disposal. There were no right decisions to be made - perhaps by either side.

By the KPD, do you choose democracy, but a lack of justice towards workers? Or roll the dice on naked force in the hope of achieving justice for workers, but at the expense of delaying - or ignoring - democracy?

By the SPD, do you respond with half-measures in the hope that they'll be enough to save democracy, even with enemies on both the right and the left threatening to overthrow you? Or do you let the leash off of the paramilitaries who are, if repugnant, at least willing to yield to the power of the government to hold democratic elections?

In any case, Thalmann's KPD was a very different beast from the pre-Thalmann era - even after the Spartacist Uprising, the SPD and KPD cooperated in a united front that made many achievements in the early-mid Weimar era possible.