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[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The left and liberals are one and the same in America.

Now I’m sure you’re going to go on some stupid fucking diatribe about how “aCkShuAllY they AREN’T”.

That’s just Russian fucking propaganda. You’re trying to bisect the left to create infighting in order to prop up fascist interests.

Begone, troll.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

The left and liberals are one and the same in America.

Just ask the opinion on economic issues and there is stark difference.

That’s just Russian fucking propaganda.

Is it really Russian propaganda? Or American oligarch propaganda to conflate the two terms?

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I read comments from a lot of Europeans (and maybe those in Oceania, I'll be honest, I don't think much about that region because I'm from America) who seem to think they're immune from what happened in the US over the last decade plus, but it's clearly spreading, and yet it's this onslaught of shit talking, Americans are dumb, there is only one liberalism, if you're not with us you're against us.

Well, they divided the left, people lost interest, and now what was unarguably the strongest nation in the world has gone awry, but let's go ahead and wax poetic about this unrealistic perfect world that people want. The right, as much as I disagree with them, is pretty grounded in reality, and they use that to their advantage, and the left lives in Idealand, and that's a vague concept. And it's a great place, but it's not possible when you shit on people who don't match your exact idea.

I'm farting into the wind here, I've got a less than zero confidence many of these accounts exist solely to create strife, the same way they did on Reddit. This isn't a leftist Utopia, it's a fucking blender.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

However you define liberal, there is the big question mark. Why did the working class used to vote liberal and Democrats but now turned to the right?