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We do not need to change human nature. We need to figure out more effective ways of countering the relentless skullduggery of rich shitheads.
You are repeating a lazy old trope that encourages inaction and creates the current situation. Human nature is just fine. We all have good parts and bad parts in our nature. Society is defined by how it encourages the better parts and how it manages the worst parts.
We need to figure out how to counter the age old practice of entrenched rich interests using shitty underhanded tactics to undermine effective efforts for marginalized and poverty stricken people to organize and help themselves.
If you look at the history of movements that attempt to build mutual aid networks and actually provide for themselves, you will also find wealthy individuals sowing seeds of destruction. Media and whisper campaigns, using entrenched political advantages, intimidation, and outright assassination are all commonly used methods.
The reason the Black Panthers were so frightening to the powers that be was not because of the armed members that were the only ones shown on TV. The media was careful to avoid mentioning that BP were also working with community groups to provide breakfast programs for school age kids and other community support programs.
The Black Panthers were frightening to the powers that be because they were forming an actual ad hoc government that was intended to meet the needs of the local people the official government would not. This same pattern has been repeated in every situation in recorded history where a marginalized group organized themselves and became a threat through their unity and coordination.
Who are... not human? Or is that just their human nature coming out?
No, I'm stating the truth. You're wasting time trying to pretend that human nature isn't what it is.
Keep trying to figure it out. I wish you luck. But, the truth is, it's not going to get much better than this. For 10,000 years of humanity as soon as there have been enough people in one place, there have been hierarchies, and typically the ones at the top have been much richer and much more brutal than what we have now. Often there are well-intentioned people who try to overthrow an old system that they think is unfair, and end up in one that's even worse. You might depose one authoritarian government and end up with one that's actually even worse.
Look at the results of the Arab Spring. Things got much worse in Syria, Yemen, Egypt, Lybia, Bahrain. It's only really Tunisia where things got better.
As for the Black Panthers, what lasting progress can you credit them with?
I credit them with the fact we are talking about them.
You have given up before even trying.
We also talk about the Confederacy.
I'm not giving up, I'm just acknowledging that it's not a simple matter.