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Just want to make sure I have that right. He spoke up so now they are making shit up to try and defame him? Do I have this bullshit right?

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (3 children)

TERFs will just make shit up. It’s absolutely unhinged. Rowling also has them denying that Nazis killed trans people - they’ve started to claim that the Nazis issued “transvestite passes” (which the Weimar Republic did - famously not the Nazi government) based on a book of photographs someone published of Nazi soldiers doing drag.

The Nazis tortured and murdered trans people. Some did drag because they thought it was funny, heck the US military did official drag shows during WW2. People do drag because it’s funny, that doesn’t mean they accept trans people. It’s unhinged how willing people are to lie and spread the lies of others in order to justify their hate.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

how willing people are to lie and spread the lies of others in order to justify their hate.

It's simply the required narrative not to call themselves monsters. The bigger the horror, the bigger the lie.

[–] luminaree@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yep doing drag shows because it's funny is the opposite of accepting trans people. It mocks them, and women too.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s a performance art, and like any other form of performance it can be used to be shitty, but it’s not inherently mocking of women or trans people. Some of the stuff I’ve seen on RuPaul has made me cringe, but I’ve also seen queens that dress up like church marms and do a Betty Bowers/old school Colbert skewering of the Christian right.

[–] luminaree@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree, I wasn't referring to actual drag performances, but to men dressing up as women only because they think it's funny!

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I don't really necessarily have a problem even then. Manly men dressing up in dresses is funny because it pokes fun at masculinity, not at trans people.

[–] luminaree@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think it makes more fun of feminity than masculinity.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Granted it does both for sure.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey now, drag queens and kings aren't the enemy.

[–] luminaree@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

To be clear I never meant to imply that they were, I wasn't talking about actual drag performances. I was talking about men dressing up as women because they think it's funny.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Phantasms are one hell of a drug.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It’s exhausting, because once you debunk them on something, they just move on to something else. It’s easy to just make up shit, it takes work to prove it wrong. There’s no guarantee anyone sees the debunking either.