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I eat beef and care deeply about a sustainable biosphere. The future depends on Forages. https://youtu.be/bDnZ-oNjatY
Top Soil depletion should also be very scary to people, its quickly running out via current mono-cropping industrial farming. The only way to restore top soil is via ruminants
Oh my, if you actually care then wait until you hear about beef farming in the Amazon rain forest.
https://www.farmsanctuary.org/news-stories/amazon-deforestation-beef-industry/
Now your moving the goal posts.
Your original post was "There exist no people who eat beef and care about the environment". This is clearly wrong, and I disagree.
Now you want to argue "There exists at least one practice in cattle farming that isn't a net positive for the environment" - Factory framing of both cattle, and mono-cropping, is bad for the environment - I agree.
There is no practice in cattle farming that is a net positive for the environment. Methane is a potent greenhouse gas, and cattle produce a fuck ton of it.
Ah, ruminants are part of the normal biocycle, they produce methane in a cyclic fashion and sequester it in top soil. They are not net producers of methane, they are nature itself. If you look at the entire biocycle the methane is just in movement.
Without ruminants we wouldn't have top soil. I encourage you to watch Dr Ballerstedt's lecture i shared with you two posts ago.
When you deforest an acre of the Amazon rain-forest to raise beef cattle it's not a part of the normal bio-cycle. You don't even know where your beef comes from when you eat it at a restaurant, do you? 🤡
Your moving the goalpost again.
And you know that each bit of plants on your plate is locally sourced, not mono-cropped, using no pesticides, no industrial inputs, no imported fertilizers, and has never seen the inside of a sysco truck?
Please, you just want to argue and calling me a clown demonstrates how reductive your thinking is.
Whataboutism
What about any of this has to do with your original thesis that nobody cares about the environment and can eat beef?