It's not so binary, so I disagree with the premise. Ofc I upvoted it. π
Unpopular Opinion
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People who fly in planes...
People who drive cars...
People who work for corporations...
People who eat imported off-season fruits and vegetables...
People who have children...
There are thousands of personal choices everyone could make to make the world a better place, and none of them will be effective on their own. We're all thoroughly fucked because the rich control the world and they think they will be able to ride out the collapse on their private islands and gated farms. Nothing you and I can do will stop the apocalypse, so stop being judgemental about choices other people make, and just enjoy the ride.
I agree with you but you are also undermining direct action.
People should be cutting all of that shit where ever possible
Obviously life is life but drinking water out of plastic bottles when 95% of US has safe tap water is peak braindead consumerism
Lol... I doubt that opinion is that unpopular but you can try the same set up with people who
Who fly for tourism Drinking bottled water at home Drive SUV Live in a large houses without sufficient head count
That ought to get people properly triggered. Beef is a low hanging fruit and even most beef eaters know this. Just eat less of it.
Jfc the vegan extremism in tech shows so hard on Lemmy it makes me both embarrassed to be in tech, and on Lemmy.
Fuck off. Feeling guilt (or worse yet, telling others to feel guilty) for eating beef when there exist billionaires with private jets is beyond absurd. Especially when we consider food availability, cost efficacy of feeding the populations...
Get your head out of your asshole.
You're no better than the Christofascists telling 'the gays they'll go to hell,' ramming ideology down peoples throats by way of guilt and shame. Exact same ideological posturing. Its abhorrant; it's pathetic.
I don't think it's irrational to be critical of decisions just because there are worse evils. Whataboutisms don't solve anything, because you basically invalidate any argument with "but rich people have private jets".
You can have more of a bearing on your fellow man than you do on corporate untouchables, so if you want to see change, start with the small stuff.
No. That is just rampant stupidity. That is the same as a fat person celebrating eating a salad for lunch while still planning on gorging themselves on chocolate for dinner.
Blaming individual poor person choices IS ALWAYS WRONG in a world with billionares. PERIOD. This is fucking brainless in-fighting because you are too stupid to understand the sheer scale of the world or the rich's impact on it. Genuinely, a pathetic attitude to have and especially to defend.
Your analogy is horseshit.
Just because you're too stupid to understand a basic analogy doesn't mean it is bad. It means you are fucking brainless. Try harder, or be dismissed as the amoeba-brained buffoon you are.
Do you have a moment to discuss our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ?
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If you genuinely think vegans are no better than people who want to force me into conversation therapy and ban hormones, you've completely lost the plot. Seriously touch some grass, and stop trivializing the actual dangers of FASCISTS WHO WANT TO FUCKING MURDER PEOPLE EN MASSE by comparing it to feeling hurt by a goddamn lemmy post
Big fan of those downvotes, it's very nice knowing y'all think veganism is somehow equivalent to wanting to murder minorities. Seriously yall are fucking ridiculous, look at your goddamn selves and figure out where the fuck you went wrong. The people who want to kill me are worse than vegans, how the actual fuck do you need to be reminded of that? Jesus fucking christ
I agree and I'm not even vegan. Pork and poultry are both a lot less bad for the environment, and afaik it's not at all hard to avoid beef in terms of cost and availability
Thanks for not eating beef then! Youβre saving the planet. Itβs a bit cooler outside today, the effects of your sacrifice are already noticeable. What would we do without people like β¦ oh wait, gotta go, my steakβs almost done.
Or animal wellbeing.
Climate change is animal well-being, just on a global scale.
I see this line on internet a lot: animal farmers don't care about the welfare of their animals.
I know too many beef farmers to think that.
I used to think like you. But then I released that you aren't gong to successfully convince billions of people to fix climate change through personal choices and carbon footprint efficiency.
Collective action to change government policy to make climate pollution uneconomical is how it changes.
Maybe that policy makes meat a luxury commodity and you get what you want, but human will is too weak to assume that people will stop eating meat out of choice.
The concept of our personal carbon footprint was one of BPs most successful ever marketing campaigns to avoid their accountability.
agriculture is also contributing to human accelerated climate change, jsyk.
Judging from the comments, this is truly an unpopular opinion. I wonder why it's got so many downvotes ... It is what it says on the tin.
It's low effort rage bait
One could argue the kinds of posts perfect for this community are all rage bait.
Like a decade ago, I got to see Paul Hawken speak. His organization reviews the science to determine which methods are most impactful for reducing climate change. Here's their list: https://drawdown.org/solutions/table-of-solutions. The idea really stuck with me - and I was surprised by the impact of some activities.
Is eating the rich at the top?
Yes, but sadly not vegan.
You can have different degrees of giving a shit, though. Like you can give some shit, just not enough to quit beef.
People care only enough to criticise corporations, no personal accountability
The carbon footprint is a creation of BPβs marketing wing.
Personal accountability is important, but donβt let it distract you from the fact that corporations have worked for decades to ensure their profitability at our communal expense.
Direct action is better framing imho
You ain't wrong π
I don't give a shit about climate change, but rarely eat meat at all. How is that even possible?
Through the power of (A=>B) not implying (B=>A)