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Is it just / ?

I kid. But really, besides "its all a file", if you take away the gui, is the only difference the syntax ? How libraries interact? How disks are mounted ?

If we stripped all ms's junk out and made windows open source, would we still prefer linux?

When you get to a very basic level, is one of them more efficiently coded?

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This got me thinking, are there any other non-Unix-based OS's left? Really, for any hardware more sophisticated than say, an ESP? At all?

I honestly can't think of one.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

OpenVMS is still semi-maintained. It's DEC's old operating system that Windows NT draws some inspiration from because Microsoft hired a bunch of ex-DEC engineers.

There's also 9front, a fork of Bell Labs' Plan9.

Wegmans' checkout uses Toshiba 4690 OS, which I think is vaguely descended from CP/M.

I think IBM still maintains their i operating system, which used to be called OS/400.

Network equipment like enterprise routers and switches tend to run weird unique things, Cisco equipment runs IOS and Adtran equipment runs AOS.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 2 days ago

Oh man a stew of them. Nice

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Eh, TempleOS is the answer to everything, it doesn't count.

TempleOS is the answer to everything

I assume it's stuck on version 42 then?

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's no longer maintained, right? So wouldn't count.

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's already been made perfect once. What updates would you make it divinely inspired code?

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't update a thing. I would pick and choose the parts I like when I like them.

[–] monovergent@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The OS bundled with TI-84 Plus CE Python Edition graphing calculators is a wacky one. It runs primarily on an eZ80 core for backwards-compatibility with earlier graphing calculators while also handling an ARM core for Python functions. Parts of the assembly code can be traced back to the TI-82 calculator ROM from 1993.

Most people wouldn't think a calculator would ever need a security solution, but it even verifies application signatures so students are less likely to load cheating utilities on them.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The HP 49g+/39g+ and their descendants the 50g/39gs run the same operating systems as the older 49g/39g except most of it runs in an emulator so they could replace the old Saturn CPUs with ARM ones. And it still runs way faster than the native version on the older devices somehow.

Plus the entire operating system is written in Reverse Polish Lisp, one of the strangest languages I've ever seen. Very strange devices, but still leagues ahead of any calculator produced since (at least the 49/50, the 39 is very confusing)

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

My TI-89 got me through college.

[–] 4z01235@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Haiku is pretty unix-like, I wouldn't count it

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 2 days ago

Fun wiki hole there. Nice.

[–] Daggity@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] unique_hemp@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

FreeBSD is closer to Unix than Linux is

[–] Daggity@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fair enough, never took a real look at it.

[–] myotheraccount@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

FreeBSD is actually a "real unix", in the sense that it is derived from the original source. Wikipedia has this nice ancestry tree: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Unix_history-simple.svg