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Trump to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal (www.theguardian.com)
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Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region

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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

We've been through this before in 2014 with that cunt Merkel and the good for nothing, "hope and peace and shit", Obama.

EDIT: Some people here might not like what I am saying (which I find surprising considering that Merkel rewarded Putin with Nord Stream II after the invasion of Crimea and Donbas - this is a fact), but this is a very somewhat common view in Ukraine (my use of swearing notwithstanding).

[–] troed@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Many outside of Ukraine don't realize that this war didn't start in 2022 but in 2014.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 16 hours ago

earlier, putin was testing the waters with crimea, and georgia? '08

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 3 points 21 hours ago

The war started in 1991, when we dared split off from the ~~Russian Empire~~ Soviet Union

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, Obama was good for the US but awful to the world for appeasing Putin via his puppet Medvedev. McCain on the other hand was critical of the Russian invasion of Georgia and had strong ties to the opposition in Russia, so he was well-informed on the situation. He wouldn't enable Putin to violate international law time and time again.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

I was actually living in the US when Obama got elected. I got caught up in the Obama hype at the time (I was pretty young).

While I admit my opinion on Obama started leaning negative in 2014, even when living in the US I didn't really understand why there was no real prosecution of major financial groups following the the 2008 great recession.