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No. Their federation does differ from the fediverse's, essentially, people have PDSes (personal data servers) which are just dumb datastores. These store data like your posts, likes, follows and blocks publicly.
AppViews are the other part, these take the data from PDSes and index it, and sort out interactions/notifications.
AppViewLite, for example, can be self hosted on any computer, and can be set to only take posts from select users, and discard posts after a while.
Is this federation, though? I've always thought of federation as a technical description of a platform's network topology, that it is several nodes communicating with one another to provide an overall platform.
Like, an AppViewLite is basically analogous to a Nostr replay and no one describes Nostr as federated.
A more interesting conversation is whether grafting federation onto Bluesky is worth the effort. If indexing the network can be done for a reasonable price, which it seems to be, then I don't see why people would put in the effort. If an app view/relay goes bad then you can just switch and get mostly the same experience.
I still believe that the ActivityPub solution of the multi stakeholder platform is a better direction, but I don't think the Bluesky idea of super easy migration should be dismissed out of hand like it so often is on this side of the conversation.
Yeah, it's still federation. It's just pull-based rather than push based.
Bluesky was made to be a decentralised twitter from the beginning.
Meh, I still don't see it as federation, but that might just be me projecting my own definition. Like, if we accept that bsky is federated then that would mean Bing is federated, just for arbitrary HTML rather than predetermined JSON.
It depends on your definition of federation.
It's defined as: "A system where various entities collaborate and share resources".
Nodes definitely collaborate, and resources (data) is shared.