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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Americans are murderous pigs and the jApAnEsE dId NoThInG wRoNg?

how about: they are both murderous pigs?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Just like Ukraine bOmBiNg CiViLiAn TaRgEtS in Russia amirite

Both sides bad I is very smart

(Of course America was bad, but not for bombing Imperial Japan)

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Arguably fighting against Japan and Germany in WW2 is one of the only times the US used their military in a justifiable way. Fascism had to be stopped.

The Japanese military expected to lose 20 million people in the very first battle of the invasion, and the Americans were considering using poison gas because the casualties of fighting it out in the streets would have been in the millions of troops. People don't realize how dark it was in 1945, food shipments had all but ceased, Japan was entering a famine; if the war had dragged on through a land invasion it would have been cataclysmic.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Imperial Japan was far more murderous, in the context of the 2nd World War, which is what this thread is about.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

sure, let's dice and slice the context until the USA is always right

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

In the context of WW2, the United States was morally justified to oppose the Imperial Japanese Government.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

to oppose, sure... to drop 2 nuclear bombs on civilians?? hmmm dunno

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Knowing the necessity for the defeat of the Imperial Japanese government, the burgeoning country-wide famine, combined with the inevitable bloodbath of a mainland invasion, the Allies justified the use of nuclear weapons, the details of which you can read about in the articles I posted above. Nazi Germany and the USSR were also developing their own nuclear weapon systems. A demonstration was deemed necessary.

I personally would not have authorized dropping the bombs on cities. Easy for me to say. But I certainly would have been living the rest of my days in despair at the mindless slaughter and ritual mass-suicide that would've ensued during the invasion of mainland Japan.

I don't envy the choices the Allies had to make while combatting Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

as opposed to just embargo the island now that all the axis had fallen?

no, America wanted the show of force

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

embargo is cowardly and it amount to practically doing nothing. There are people being murdered by the japanese military on my homeland. Both the CCP and KMT supported the US actions during WW2 regarding japan.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

embargo is cowardly

of course, killing civilians is manly