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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If mastodon disappeared tomorrow it would be chaos. Loads of servers would shut down, and the rest would switch to a fork.
It would do irreapable damage to the fediverse, since mastodon basically controls the spec (the w3 thing is more of a collection of suggestions).

AT is infinietly easier to work with as well.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Again as a Dev, I have to disagree.

How can mastodon disappear? By definition, its on open platforms and self hosted solutions. It cant. And we are using the spec to talk right now.

And as a Dev AT really isn't easier to work with. I've tried hooking it up multiple times and while I can do it, its such a pain. And debug is pretty terrible experience. But its a an opinion on both sides.

You seem very invested in the protocol. Why if I may ask?

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Have you built anything on AP? It's a pain. A poorly documented headache inducing pain.

I didn't say mastodon would disappear, I said it would cause irreparable damage to the network. Bluesky/atproto won't disappear without Bluesky PBC, but it would cause irreparable damage to the network.

Obviously mastodon is in a better position for this to happen.

I'm not really invested in the protocol, I prefer AP honestly, but everyone here is annoyingly elitest about the fediverse.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep! Your using it now ;) at least a very little bit if your URL is correct.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

A little bit of what? sorry, this makes no sense to me.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, I like piefed a bit more. Much easier to work with and code is very well done. But I helped a bit on Lemmy back in the day. And some other fedi services. A very very small amount. Other devs are much more impressive.

I also tried creating a couple of AT services and helped a tiny bit of doc work. Didn't work out because of a variety of things. Mostly the pipes/thoughput you need, but also the setup. At the time there was no generic docker setup.

Anyways more than anyone wanted to know about all that. Now I just fart around on here.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Have you looked into jetstream?

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No, this is: https://docs.bsky.app/blog/jetstream (probably should have linked to it, sorry :/ ) tl;dr, allows server side filtering, and uses json instead of DAG-CBOR

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 7 hours ago

Ah yeah Google didn't come up with that. Coo