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[–] Auth@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

By working "pretty well" you mean mass starvation, mass murders of the civilian population and complete government authoritarianism. Communism's death toll rivals ww2 and thats with no foreign intervention.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

By working “pretty well” you mean mass starvation, mass murders of the civilian population and complete government authoritarianism.

Communimsm and authoritarianism are opposites. Cannot have authoritarianism with a stateless and classless society.

Communism’s death toll rivals ww2 and thats with no foreign intervention.

What's that death toll? Because in the US alone, capitalism kills about 40k per year, due to gatekeeping things like healthcare.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If that's your opinion then no matter what I say you are going to hit me with the "true communism has never been tried"

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 20 hours ago

Oh, it has been tried! For example, the Free People Territory in what is now Ukraine. Killed off by authoritarians pretending to be communists in the the USSR. Also, Neozapatistas in the Chiapas region. Cuba is doing a pretty fair shake at it, as well, and a lot of suffering there happening because of the myriad invasions, assassination attempts, and now economic embargo on them by the US. Rojava is doing a system that borrows a lot from communism (Democratic Confederalism).

So, since we're doing economic death tolls: What is the death toll from just the US capitalist system? Like, 1 million dead during COVID, 40k per year from gatekeeping health care, how many died in Iraq? Afghanistan? How many indigenous people in the US have died from capitalism? I think just the last one puts the holocaust to shame...

Where has capitalism been tried that hasn't resulted in massive death tolls?