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Flawed premise and why we're in this shit-mire. We keep thinking that we can appeal to the minds to relate with or connect with or change the policies of a third of our population when they're not using their minds to begin with.
They are the segment of the population not concerned with policy and values and principles, It may seem backwards to say they don't have values when they have such violent ideology, but their entire motivation for the things they defend violently is entirely emotional.
If their feelings change, so do their stances. If you can tell a better story that engages them and makes them feel feelings, their brains will latch onto that new narrative and they will either abandon the old one or encorporate it even if it contradicts... because again, concepts like contradiction and inconsistency are products of logic and reason, and we're talking about a side based in emotion and impulses. For example, when a conservative suddenly has a family crisis and needs assistance, they become entirely for public support systems and socialism. When they need an abortion, suddenly they're pro-choice. When one of their kids is harmed by a shooter, they want gun controls. They can hold these changes in belief WHILE also remaining anti-socialism, pro-gun and pro-life. We have a very hard time understanding this if we are people who read and write and think with language.
Trump and his ilk tap this easily by saying short, pithy and powerful statements to help emotional minds validate their own feelings. You sad and overworked? it's the migrants! Worried about your kids education? TRANS PEOPLE IN THE BATHROOM.
It doesn't have to logically make sense, our brains don't work like that by default, they just need a story to explain the feelings.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community
^ and it's nothing new, reactionaries have always preferred fantasy and power over reality and goodness.
Reactionaries are unknowingly self-harming, and their victimization fuels their faith and anger, which is redirected conveniently to scapegoats and political enemies.
Climate disasters lead to conspiracies about the government controlling the weather, rather than accountability for oil companies or action to stabilize the climate.
Poverty and economic hardship becomes hatred against immigrants and decadent elements of society (intellectuals, gays, trans, etc.), instead of bolstering workers movements and unions or translating into policies that improve outcomes.
Those who do not think for themselves cannot conceive that they can be wrong. They always accept whatever they are told by their political party without question, even if it contradicts what they were told previously and will promptly discard previous stance without question. If Trump was a Democrat, the Democrats would rally around him and the Democrats' minions would worship the ground he walks on, even as he deports illegal immigrants. There would be a small handful that rail against him, but the bulk would genuflect mindlessly, just like they did with Obama when he was declared "deporter in chief"
" If you can tell a better story that engages them and makes them feel feelings, their brains will latch onto that new narrative and they will either abandon the old one or encorporate it even if it contradicts"
Partially correct. The mindless will change their minds, but only when their political gods tell them to. If the better story comes from anyone else, they reject it without a second thought. This applies to both parties.
The irony is watching Democrats/left wingers on here declaring themselves the arbiters of truth and morality and howling about Trump being a pedo when Biden was openly touching and sniffing little girls on national TV with the same Democrats desperately trying to explain it away as being "fatherly". Then when the Ashley Biden diary was confirmed to be real, the Democrats rejected reality because it would mean that they were wrong about Biden.
I was with you until you started going insane at the end.
Dagwood has some bass-ackwards political takes
I blocked him, I don't think any of us should be wasting our time and energy on people who get so high off their own farts that they decide to move in there and stay in their own ass forever.
Yeah, I'll be blocking them in short order.
It's not insane. It's the truth. Why do you think the FBI, who does not pursue lost or stolen personal possession cases, went after the Ashley Biden diary?
The Biden Administration knew it would be bad news if the contents of that diary were made public. Some of it was and even SNOPES had to admit that it was real and the contents that were released were confirmed.
And why else would Ashley write that she had to wait until late at night to shower because of her father? Those who worship the Democratic Party ignored the obvious, that he was a pedo and he has dementia.
Call it insane if you want, I call it reality.
I care a lot more about material outcomes the current administration's attempts to like... destroy motherfucking democracy, than conspiracy stories about a diary, and I care more about power structures that support things like sex-trafficking islands for billionaires than one family's attempts to keep their private shit under wraps.
It is insane, I read the whole thing and stand by it, it's more useless hype and distraction-for-clicks that's preventing national mobilization and unity against a force that will someday take away even your ability to read these emotion-validating stories on the internet that make you feel better about yourself for whatever reason.
Define "destroy democracy".
It's a meaningless buzz phrase the Democrats bandy about to stir up hysteria and prevent people from thinking critically. It wasn't Trump who tried to weaponize the government to force a political candidate from running and tried to keep said candidate tied up in court so they couldn't campaign.
People capable of critical thinking burned out on the hysteria between 2016 and 2021. This is why Trump got reelected in 2020. The Democrat hysteria didn't work and the Democrats actively trying to weaponize the government to stop Trump was so blatantly obvious that it turned a huge number of people against them.
Also, you're doing precisely what I described. Denying reality in service of your political party. You call it a "conspiracy theory" because then you can use that label to deny reality. Biden was a pedo and has dementia, it was obvious. you didn't care because he was "on your team".
It's also not a theory. It's a fact.
I can't engage with militant centrism, again I care about outcomes. Right now we're heading for bad outcomes because people (like you) are so incredibly self-consumed that they can't get their heads out of their asses long enough to mobilize communities and get social and start uniting instead of finding yet more things to feel special about under every rock.
Have a good one. Or a bad one. Or one in between because GOOD AND BAD ARE THE SAME THING WAKE UP SHEEPLE.
You "care about outcomes"? Bullshit. you care about your political team winning. There's a difference. It's why you engage in the typical Democrat hysteria and spew their talking points with no consideration for reality.
Then when the midterms come, if Republicans gain more seats, you'll be screeching louder and becoming more and more hysterical. Then in 2028, if (assuming he'll run) JD Vance wins, you'll be shitting yourself and wondering why so many people are "turning into fascists" as you continue blindly spewing your political party's talking points.
If Trump was a Democrat, you'd be polishing his shoes with your tongue and talking about how good the polish tastes and talking about how no one is above the law, which is why illegal immigrants have to go home and come back the right way.
Don't lie to yourself. This is why you spent 4 years defending Biden, despite his obvious dementia.
Who is this imaginary bad man who touched you that you keep imagining? I never gave a shit about Biden or said anything pro-democrat, but I do care a lot about losing representation and human rights at this moment. That's outcomes, something far less important to you than feeling "right" for having your edgy centrist fantasy.
Go ahead and get your last spiel in for whatever other breathless centrists and tankies get down this far or your alts, I won't see it.
Now you're just trying to gaslight. Any time the Democrats don't win, you lose your shit and you know it.
But, yes, do run away and block me because I'm sure by now the cognitive dissonance is reaching critical levels.
Lets not say “destroy democracy” and instead say “dismantling the government and systems in place to protect citizens and the basic rights of human beings in favor of a theocratic fascist regime.”
You can say it, but you'd be hysterically wrong, like any other time Democrats or Republicans have whipped themselves into hysteria to protect themselves from reality.
Change is hard, but denialism won’t make it easier for you. We’re in a state of fascism and decline regardless of how much you want everything to be the same.
The shower thing was her recollection of a dream. Maybe read the shit you claim to know so much about, you’ll either spread less disinformation or at least be better at it.