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Sure, let's elect a Reagan republican dressed up as a democrat who will spend his whole term trying to reach across the aisle.
Screw that. I enjoy watching Newsom bicker with Trump just like I enjoy when the Lincoln Project mocks Trump. But the next democratic candidate needs to be an actual progressive that supports workers and the disadvantaged in our nation.
I am very willing to debate this leading up to and during the primaries, but once those are done I am going to vote against the GOP no matter who is on the ballot.
I am going to vote against fascism. If the Democratic party insists on choosing a candidate who agrees with Republican efforts to genocide me, then I am going to vote against their fascist too. And don't come looking for me to whine about it after; by the time the Niemoller poem gets to you I'll be long gone already.
I'm with you 100% on that. If Newsom is on the ballot, he'll get my vote.
Why would they care about anything you want if you're going to vote for them no matter what?
Them: "The Democrats keep lying to us and screwing us over, WTF?!?"
Me: "Well, you keep announcing that you will vote for them, even though they keep doing that, right?"
Them: "Yes, but I can't figure out why keep lying to us and screwing us over"
Me: "..."
Right?? This is what voting Kamala got them and she lost, imagine the candidate after newsom if he won... Probably Liz Cheney
Because primaries exist? You know, the thing you've been demanding for years now?
Surely there will be several leftist candidates to choose from.... Er...
Which is what I'm saying?? They don't even field left-ish candidates anymore because they know that anyone left of the overton window, enfranchised and able to vote will vote for them no matter what so why appeal to them? The people on the hedge are to the right, therefore thats who they try to appeal to. Which is why you get this guy going on talkshow flashing his transphobia credentials in a desperate attempt to cozy up to the fasc crowd.
But then look at the people that came out for zohran. The zohran campaign targeted areas that dont even bother showing up to vote and it paid off big time.
You can make your case against Newsom during the primary.
If Democrats generally agree with you, then someone else will be nominated. If Democrats generally disagree with you, then why would you expect them to do what you want?
If people were willing to withhold their vote and not vote dem, then the dems wouldn't be able to ride roughshod over labor issues the way they do now.
If people really wanted Dems to prioritize labor issues, then Dems who prioritized labor issues would win primaries.
oh dear... no they wouldn't. You're living in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, the system is rigged against labor issues. Look at the ratfucking bernie got and he was a compromiye candidate.
Nonsense. Bernie lost because he is unpopular among Black voters. And polls consistently show that Democratic voters prioritize other issues over labor.
Bernie lost because the DNC screwed him over. Calling him a racist is one of the many ways that they did that.
I agree that voters prioritize other issues over labor, but the Democratics refuse to take action on those issues as well. Maybe they could try doing what the voters want for a change, and see if people come out to support them.
Did the DNC make Sanders say this?
The top issues are among Democrats right now are inflation and civil rights, and that's what they are focusing their messaging on.
Then maybe the elected Democrats should have done something about those things when they had the power to. But they chose not to, and instead spent their time giving handouts to their rich friends, and bombing kids.
Democrats aren't responsible for Trump tariffs, and that's what is causing inflation.
Sure, that's why I said "When they had the power to". But they were responsible for the inflation under Biden and Obama, and instead of trying to fix that, they screwed over workers and gave handouts to their rich friends.
They did fix it. Inflation was under 3% when Biden left office.
lol, sure thing buddy. Housing was more expensive, education was more expensive, food was more expensive, healthcare was more expensive, wages weren't keeping up. But sure, they "fixed" inflation.
CPI was 2.9% in 2024
I'm sure the people that went bankrupt due to illness will be glad to hear that. Or the people that could no longer feed their kids due to Biden taking away their benefits. Or the students that still owe money becuase Biden chose to dick around instead of fixing their debt.
As I said, the top concern among Democrats is inflation. Not ending capitalism.
I'm pretty sure I didn't disagree with that. As I said, the Democrats should have done something about that when they had the chance.
They did. They reduced CPI below 3%, which means they fixed inflation.
That doesn't mean they solved everyone's problems. But they fixed what Democrats consider the biggest problem.
In case you haven't noticed, the people who show up year after year and engage with the party are the ones who get their policies. If you demonstrate you're feckless and undependable, politicians will rightly surmise that there's no point even trying to please you because you don't show up when it matters.
What are you talking about? The Democratic leadership hasn't been giving the voters the policies that they want for my entire lifetime. They Democratic leadership gives their doners the policies that they want, but they've been pretty open about not caring about their voters.
Maybe if the Democrats stopped putting up awful candidates, who run awful campaigns based on awful policies, then people would come out and vote for them.
I've seen the Boomers who think "socialism" is a dirty word get exactly what they want again and again, because they're the ones who actually engage with the political process in an effective manner. Progressives seem to think circle-jerking online is all they need to do.
Except we saw that to be false in the case of bernie where the party leadership kept putting their thumb on the scale, with superdelegates and whatever.
Feckless and undependable voter means someone who wont blindly vote dem every single time? Why is gruesome newsom spending so much time on fascist podcasts bashing trans people then?