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I've always been curious how fascism takes hold, and how people like Hitler, Stalin. etc rise to power. Do people not see what is happening? Shouldn't hindsight, foresight and common sense kick in at some point? I used t think they were like mob bosses early on - anyone disagreeing with them ends up in a barrel, but surely were civilized and educated by now?

It seems the people don't want to jeopardize their comfortable livelihoods and individual lives so expect the 'powerful elected officials' to do their bidding. After all, the public gave them the power to do just that. Otoh, the politicians don't want to jeopardize their cushy jobs and accumulated power by challenging the majority, so are waiting for the public to start a jan6 situation so they can point and say, 'see, the people are unhappy so we should act'.

It's a shitstorm of no consequences and a man child hacking away at the country and no one seems to be doing anything meaningful. I'm literally watching fascism take place.

History/ psychology/ sociology majors care to chime in?

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[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

No, humanity leads to fascism without the correct controls in place. It's an unfortunate side effect of our "survival of the fittest" driving our evolution as a species. Since greed usually wins out, it was selected for in our species, and the only thing stopping it is our civility, which is rather new to our species as a whole.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And there’s no government type that has the correct controls in place?

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No. There do not exist controls that will not be bypassed through human ingenuity.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So what’s the timeframe on turning to fascism? Looking at well over a few hundred years at least at this point.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

History books suggest we're not special in that regard. Around 250 years is the average if I recall correctly. It looks like we're right on schedule...

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've never seen any fascists trying to reduce the governments role in every facet of life. That's a new one.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Nobody that has said they are trying to reduce governments role, has ever actually been attempting to do so (in the long run). That has always been a front to reduce checks and balances which keep fascists from having the freedom to be fascists.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s called a conspiracy theory kids.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's called observation of factual history, fascist.