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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 96 points 1 month ago (4 children)

BS. Jaywalking is an American concept.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yup, pushed by car companies actually. Capitalism yay!

:/

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I guess Japan isn't capitalist

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 month ago

japan is capitalism with actual regulation and oversight, rather than just "hey let's put the presidency up for auction!"

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone's claiming that all capitalists perform the same exact actions in every nation

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The first person claimed that jaywalking is a western concept, which is fucking ridiculous — just so we're clear.

The second person suggested that capitalism must be the culprit behind why jaywalking is a concept in the U.S.

So, sure, whatever — both comments are open to ridicule.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They said jaywalking was an American concept and it really is. I think only Germany are also that dumb about crossing roads.

Why would the idea of jaywalking laws being predominantly pushed by automobile special interest groups seem so wild to you? I mean, don't tell me you think jaywalking laws have anything to do with people's safety.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

I think only Germany are also that dumb about crossing roads.

Not even Germany, never heard of it. But cars stop at crosswalks so it makes sense to use them on busy streets.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Because we all know the Eastern countries would NEVER adopt Western concepts, ergo the idea MUST be universal!

Case closed! Good job! You should treat yourself.

Meanwhile, OP (who is clearly, obviously wrong) must live in shame. Because there's just NO WAY they might be correct, and have stated facts that are easily google-able and even has a whole Wikipedia page with all these details with cited sources in the opening paragraph, like this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaywalking

THAT WOULD BE SILLY

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

If a thing is adopted everywhere, then...yes, it would be a universal concept. Sure, it would remain an American invention but that's not what was being said.

It's like saying cars are a German concept, because they were invented there. And electronic TVs are American concepts. The rest of the world may have adopted them nowadays but "they are still uniquely German and American concepts."

"Only the American mind would conceive of 'TVs', other cultures may adopt and ape it but it remains American."

"Nothing but the German psyche could generate the concept of 'cars'. Sure, other countries have adopted 'cars', and apply it by themselves, but it's primarily a German concept."

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, sure, let's see what the link says about Japan.

...

Oh. Japan doesn't appear in the link.

But you clearly wouldn't have posted a link without reading it first and checking whether it supports the "facts" you claim, wouldn't you? It would be really embarrassing to do something like that, so clearly you wouldn't do that, right? Right?


In fact, if you read through all the countries in your link, most countries only have laws against crossing red lights or crossing the road next to a pedestrian crossing.

In Japan, the only thing that's illegal in the context of jaywalking is crossing the road at a red light, and even that is only very rarely fined.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Everything you just mentioned supports my assertion.

Did you get me mixed up with the other guy?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ah, then I guess planes are American concepts.

I guess I'm starting to understand why eurotrash ends up so mad at America, your entire lives are simply full of Western concepts! Imagine that.

Life was so much better before the Western concept of flushable toilets.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The Wright Brothers were American so yeah, airplanes are in absolute fact American inventions.

And Flushable Toilets were a British invention. Look shit up before commenting and you won't seem like such a moron.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh I didn't realize Western and American were synonymous — you've really proven your point.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You should learn better reading comprehension. Unless you actually think Brittain is part of America? In which case you should learn geography.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, yes, my reading comprehension is flawed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

You are fucking dumb, just so we're clear.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

LoL 😂

Every comment you make proves my point even more.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago

The Western world, also known as the West, primarily refers to various nations and states in Western Europe,[a] Northern America, and Australasia

In case anyone else is watching — remember they commented about my reading comprehension first.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know if they embraced capitalism yet as they were still under imperialist rule in the 1900's.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Despite the claims of American high-school propaganda, capitalism is not synonymous with democracy.

You can have a capitalist economic system under an imperialist government, the most despotic of dictatorships, a facsist government, under a corporate government or even a failing government.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of course, but it isn't common. Most of those government types tend to exert pretty tight control over the economy.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's no such thing as a free market economy.

One has never existed and one could never exist. In fact, the idea that a free and fair (uncontrolled) market could exist is more utopian than anything you'll hear from any socialist.

The wealthiest in the world fo exactly the same thing. They just don't do it openly, in the way you would find under a traditional dictatorship.

More so, free market capitalism (even though it couldn't exist) is only one type of capitalism. So, it's far from rare but the industry standard for dictatorships, oligarchies and despots.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

that a free and fair (uncontrolled) market could exist is more utopian than anything you’ll hear from any socialist.

Nicely put.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

...Invented by carmakers to indemnify their product from liability.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's wild because jay was a slur.

who the fuck named the Jay birds?

[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wanna know how dumb my brain is? I almost told you that America isn't the only place people walk across the street not at an intersection. I thought you to be an idiot.

Alas, it is I. The idiot.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Self-awareness is the first step towards enlightenment.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dunno about the other guy but Buddha doesn't hold a candle to me with how self-aware my anxiety makes me.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That’s self-consciousness.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Lmao no others have that concept too

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, not really. It was a concerted effort by American automobile manufacturers to clear the roads of people so cars were supreme and they could sell more cars. As well as to shift blame onto victims for “accidents.”

Most other countries haven’t picked up this attitude.

Least of all Japan, where side-streets mix pedestrian, vehicle, and bicycle traffic freely. Granted, freeways don’t allow people and larger roads have pedestrian overpasses.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Many countries make you use the crossroad or under/overpass if one exists for traffic safety reasons but the effect is the same.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I never said countries don’t have crosswalks. Just that crossing outside of them is either de jure or de facto legal.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago

Not the case in many countries because of traffic safety. It's safer to cross from a pedestrian crossing or under/overpass. Sentiment isn't the same but the effect is.

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

I can only speak for the UK, but it's not a thing over here. We can cross where we please, as long as we're not putting ourselves or others in danger. And even if we are we wouldn't get much, or any, police intervention. Motorists would call us a wanker, but that would be about it.

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Lmao, no others have that concept ~~too~~

FTFY