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Disgusting how people want to support someone who is pro-corporate and betrays trans rights.
Our country elected a pedophile rapist, nothing should be at all surprising anymore.
Capital has ruined our lands and destroyed our humanity collectively. This is it, this is our kingdom after we threw money at every new shiny bullshit toy and trend and convenience until we fed No-Face until he started digesting our very morals and ethics. (Pssst, that scene was a metaphor.)
Yikes a transphobic dogwhistle and misinformation on sports. Trans women are biological women. Trans participating in sports was a non-issue in the us until the right started whining about it more recently. The International Olympic has stated that “no presumed advantage” based on sex assigned at birth or sex characteristics.
Women are more likely to participate in sports when trans players are included.
Cis-women receive harassment in sports because of comments like these.
Let me guess you don't care about women and girls facing inequitable facilities, pay, and marketing; abusive coaches; and racist, sexist, and homophobic harassment.
Please folks learn more about the topic before listening to demagogues.
Trans Athletes: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver
Yikes someone just jumped to a ridiculous conclusion. I'm not tranphobic. I don't hate trans people the slightest bit. I just have a legitimate disagreement with you on this one thing.
You would guess wrong on all these things.
True enough. Now that they have given up on hating gays, they are going after trans.
Well now, if I hadn't posted my mild comment that was removed for being politically incorrect, you wouldn't have had the opportunity to inform me and others about this would you? Maybe you would have changed my mind if the discussion had been allowed to proceed. That's why censorship is counterproductive and stupid. If someone post things I disagree with I would rather correct them then censor them.
At the time my comment was deleted, more people here approved of it than disapproved (4-3). So the censorship deprives yourself of the opportunity to convince others of your view.
It's not even about "biological men competing in womens sports", ultimately what it's about is not wanting trans people to exist at all. The sports thing is a red herring, don't fall for the bait.
When kids are trans, what they need is all the help and support we can provide. Puberty blockers and hormones to help facilitate. God forbid a kid should be comfortable in their own skin.
But, oh, no, we can't allow that either because, again, the end goal is making it harder or impossible for them to simply exist. It's not about sports and never has been.
Nope that's bullshit. If you attributed that to Newsom then you're the problem, not Newsom.
Yes, that is exactly what it is about. This one thing.
p.s. Did you actually delete my post just because I took this political stand of saying its not fair for trans women to compete in womens sports? Why would you do that? Is nobody allowed to have even a mildly politically incorrect opinion here? An enforced echo chamber does not help anybody.
I removed it because you're engaging in transphobic dog whistles that are not fit for our communities.
And, again, as explained above, the sports argument is a red herring. That's NOT what any of this is about, any more than it's about "protecting children" or whatever other bullshit they want to throw out.
They want to eliminate trans people, full stop. Eliminating puberty blockers and hormone treatment, bathroom laws, and the nonsense about sports.
It all boils down to they don't want trans people to exist, and if you start buying one piece of it, you buy all of it.
It's the trans equivalent of what got Jimmy The Greek fired back in 1988, but I recognize that's a little farther back than the internet remembers these days.
I'm not because I'm not transphobic and I don't hate trans people at all. I just have a political disagreement with you about athletics.
Okay maybe some of them do. But I don't. I just have a simple political disagreement with you about athletics.
I am proof that your slippery slope assumption is definitely false. There is a 0% chance that I am ever going to hate trans people. I just have a simple political disagreement with you about athletics. And if you don't think there are other people here who have the same opinion, you're wrong. By shutting down the discussion, you are depriving everybody of the opportunity to learn more and maybe have their minds changed. As a mod you should be trying very hard not to create an echo chamber. Or else explicitly list this opinion and any other opinions that people are not allowed to have here.
You arguing that having an athletics disagreement is the equivalent of "wanting to eliminate trans people" sounds to me like the equivalent of conservatives saying that wanting common sense gun regulations is the equivalent of "wanting to take your gun from you". i.e. You're taking a mild position and translating that into the most extreme position possible. That's not something I want to see in a regular commenter, let alone a mod with the ability to silence people with disagreeable opinions.
https://transactual.org.uk/transphobia/
f) Tacit transphobia is still transphobia.
Actions designed to harm or take away trans people’s human rights are still transphobic even when not expressed in explicitly transphobic language, or not expressed in language at all. This tacit transphobia is often referred to as ‘dogwhistle’ transphobia. For example, one UK based transphobic hate group bought a full page advert which read: ‘Woman: an adult human female.’ The statement itself is not transphobic, but when the context for the statement is that the group in question believe that trans women can never be female the transphobic intent is clear. Similarly, when a football ‘fan’ throws a banana at a black player during a match, the racist intent is clear even though bananas are not inherently racist.
It sucks but it's kind of true. It won't go over well in deeply left spaces but it's not a matter of "compromise" we just have to fight smarter. We thought too highly of our population and expected too much. We are not a civilized nation that cares about others and never have been. We just got fed toxic positivity in our own little echo-chambers until we thought we could scold the rest of the country into being better.
I am saying this as someone who has supported equality and trans rights for years and years, but we're not getting results pushing this boulder up the hill anymore. I care more about actually being able to achieve outcomes over if we're taking the highest roads to get there.
New plan:
Class war, not identity politics. Get every frustrated chud and hick mad at the right people, remind them over and over that they're miserable because rich men took their money and didn't give them anything back. Simple, direct narrative. Spice it up with memes and flashing lights. These people are bottom-of-the-barrel stupid.
Reduce the wealth disparity so that people are less prone to violence and mistrust of people different, THEN rekindle the drive for equality and rights for all people no matter their identity, maybe even some level of kindness between people.
Wake up because that was all just a good dream and climate change and AI warfare and genetic horrors are looming on the horizon and we're probably just going to elect narcissistic psychopath after narcissistic psychopath until the world is literally burning and the average American middle-class family literally lives in a shanty.
Get over it or the GOP wins again.