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A video recorded last week has ignited outrage online after it captured ICE agents violently arresting two brothers in South Norwalk, Connecticut, in broad daylight without producing a warrant. The men, identified as Ricardo Chavez and his brother, reportedly hold legal status to live and work in the United States.

The footage (credit @alwaysfilmthepolice) shows plainclothes ICE agents forcibly detaining the men in a public area. Witnesses say the agents refused to provide identification or present a warrant when asked, instead resorting to physical force and a taser to subdue the brothers before hauling them away. They also allegedly damaged their vehicle.

Community members who know the Chavez family insist that both men are law-abiding residents with valid documentation. “They work, they pay taxes, and they belong here,” said one South Norwalk resident who witnessed the arrest. “This was nothing short of a kidnapping.”

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

again with this? tolerating the intolerant is not possible. in addition, I did not dehumanize them. they do it to themselves.

why do you support nazis?

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

It's not about tolerating the intolerant, it's about not using their same thought process lest you fall prey to the same kinds of propaganda. Besides, removing their humanity absolves them of their sin. This isn't like a house cat killing birds on instinct, these people choose to do this. And they should be treated accordingly.

Broke: Nazis aren't human

Woke: The worst monsters to be born on this planet are all human, and they all seem to really like swastikas

[–] Soulg@ani.social 1 points 5 hours ago

Much more well put than I could do myself.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

it’s about not using their same thought process

It's not even close to the same thought process though. You have to know that, right?

removing their humanity absolves them of their sin.

Also, I take issue with the entire concept of "sin," so that argument holds no water for me. I mean, what a meaningless "argument". How does it absolve them of anything??

It absolutely is. It's a thought process people use to make their actions easier to justify to their own sense of morality and empathy. Militaries drill that same thought process into soldiers for the same reason. It's much easier to shoot something than it is to shoot somebody, so your enemy must be less than human to make pulling the trigger easier. So you turn a group of people into the Other. And the more you do it, the easier it gets, and all it takes is somebody convincing you that the wrong group deserves the same treatment.

"My enemy isn't human. My enemy is less than human. Since the dawning of Mankind, this has been the battlecry."

Also, I take issue with the entire concept of "sin," so that argument holds no water for me. I mean, what a meaningless "argument". How does it absolve them of anything??

I don't care one way or another about the theology around the word "sin," but it's the perfect word to describe their actions. By reducing them to subhuman, you make it easy to remove their free will in the equation - it becomes the "just following orders" excuse - and it's incredibly important to remember that they chose to do this. Nobody is born hateful, hatred is learned. They made the conscious choice to be hateful and act this way, and they should be held accountable for that choice.

People have a hard time accepting that the worst people this planet has ever seen are as human as you and me, but to deny it is to turn a blind eye to the fact that the people in that video could be our neighbors, friends, or family. Because we know them, and they're good people, so they'd never do something like that, right?

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

fair and cogent reply. i’ll take it. :)

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 day ago

"They are no longer human" doesn't count as dehumanizing? Is english not your first language?