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I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

"Nothing new under the sun" I suppose!

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay and how does people having children automatically force them into wage slavery? Its not a forgone conclusion by any means. Your kid could be the kid who picks up the pieces of capitalism and forges it into an equitable society. We just don't know. So why give in? Why give up on these children before they've truly had their chance? As I said in another comment, you might not have them but children will continue to be born regardless. Might as well foster some hope and kindness. Like Gandalf said, do the little things that keep the darkness at bay.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

So are you implying that you'd only have kids if you could ensure they'd be bourgeoisie, exploiting others for their own benefits?

I think the society fixing angle is naive. I sure wasn't that kid, I don't know anyone else who is, and now there's some kids who seem to be doing the opposite.

"Kindness" is weapons grade copium. Think of it instead like your average CFD bet or any other financial investment - first the fundamentals must be sound, then you invest, not the other way around - you wouldn't invest in a failing business just in case it could turn around, unless you're private equity and have other private equity firms lining up for your sucker special suite of bang-em-and-bin-em retirement home joints.

I've never seen hobbit/lord of rings and I don't watch or care for fantasy. You don't keep darkness at bay - you stare right into the void and grab it by the balls, then you invest.

./s

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm implying that children are participants in the class war by simply existing, and that nobody will stop children from existing. I am hoping that they fight the capitalists destroying everything. Good talk.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They're participants in the class war on the side of bourgeoisie by virtue of existing and pushing wages down. We need to fight to give kids a world with hope.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

What are you on about? Nobody gets to choose to be born or where they are. You can't just say "everyone is burger-z because they exist and that brings wages down." That shit doesnt make any sense. They are children. They dont even have fucken jobs to push wages down with.