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Democrat reformists finding out that Democrats will only play dirty against the left. (lemmy.ml)
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[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

True, but the whole "if we have elections" part is why I'll back Newsom for now. Though I'm hoping a more socialist candidate gets the nomination.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Backing Newsom instead of demanding better is how Democrats will lose the election once again. Kamala didn't lose because she was black or a woman. She lost because she pushed a centrist line. And supposedly Kamala was the last hope to have elections in 2028, so I'm not sure how this line of thinking works.

Especially at this point when nothing is locked in I don't understand why people are capitulating against their own interests already.

At this point only the Democratic Socialists of America seems to have any standards within the Democratic party and the Dems are actively working against DSA as hard as possible. I'd be curious who the DSA would want to run as president though.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

America is so lost. You guys are on the verge of utter collapse.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We know. Collapse seems all but inevitable. We dont know what to do about it.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Seems pretty self evident to me.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"stock standard Dem" is looking pretty good right now.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why? They had a big hand in causing this mess in the first place.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They haven't had enough senate seats to have a hand in anything for over a decade. 48 or less for 6 consecutive whole congresses.

The opposition is literally killing people.

[–] Psycoder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why do you think that is? Do you think the fact that they fought harder against Bernie than Trump have anything to do with it?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They impeached trump, they gave third party Bernie a spot in their primaries and be came in second place by about 3 Million votes in 2016 and 9 Million votes in 2020.

[–] Psycoder@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

The comment makes this claim:

That DNC's Brazile was helping HRC's campaign team prepare for the debates by giving them questions ahead of time.

It cites THIS article where the BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN TEAM defended her!

One Sanders’ staff defended Brazile in the wake of the email’s release, separating her from the DNC officials implicated in this summer’s hack.

“I can’t speak to what she did or didn’t send to Clinton people. All I can speak to is the relationship our camp had with her,” Symone Sanders, a former Sanders campaign press secretary, wrote to Politico Monday. “During the primary, Donna regular reached out for messaging guidance from us and was very helpful. She was even handed and we all had a great working relationship with her.”

I can't believe it's 2025 and I'm still talking to idiots about Hillary's Emails, jfc.