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Yeah, and currently people seem to think that Gavin Newsome would be anything other than a stock standard Democrat if he manages to win a 2028 Presidential bid (if the US even has an election).
But it's all just Social Media "clap back" and talking points. Obviously it's better to have a contender willing to do that, but he's unlikely to be much more than Biden 2.0.
Gavin Newsom is basically George Bush 3
the Dems of today are closer to 1990s Republicans than 2020s Republicans are
Obama: "The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican."
I've watched the Democrats move to the right since then
Not even close, if that were true then they'd have support of the private prison industry, but they don't, Trump has completely polarized crime and all of the prison complex supports him and only him.
He hasn't kissed the prison industry's ass yet. Once he does, you'll have another excuse.
🙄 🫸social populism
😍👍 trolling on twitter
True, but the whole "if we have elections" part is why I'll back Newsom for now. Though I'm hoping a more socialist candidate gets the nomination.
Backing Newsom instead of demanding better is how Democrats will lose the election once again. Kamala didn't lose because she was black or a woman. She lost because she pushed a centrist line. And supposedly Kamala was the last hope to have elections in 2028, so I'm not sure how this line of thinking works.
Especially at this point when nothing is locked in I don't understand why people are capitulating against their own interests already.
At this point only the Democratic Socialists of America seems to have any standards within the Democratic party and the Dems are actively working against DSA as hard as possible. I'd be curious who the DSA would want to run as president though.
America is so lost. You guys are on the verge of utter collapse.
We know. Collapse seems all but inevitable. We dont know what to do about it.
Seems pretty self evident to me.
"stock standard Dem" is looking pretty good right now.
Why? They had a big hand in causing this mess in the first place.
They haven't had enough senate seats to have a hand in anything for over a decade. 48 or less for 6 consecutive whole congresses.
The opposition is literally killing people.
Why do you think that is? Do you think the fact that they fought harder against Bernie than Trump have anything to do with it?
They impeached trump, they gave third party Bernie a spot in their primaries and be came in second place by about 3 Million votes in 2016 and 9 Million votes in 2020.
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1k921fd/trump_has_lowest_100day_approval_rating_in_80/mpb8rhu/
The comment makes this claim:
That DNC's Brazile was helping HRC's campaign team prepare for the debates by giving them questions ahead of time.
It cites THIS article where the BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN TEAM defended her!
I can't believe it's 2025 and I'm still talking to idiots about Hillary's Emails, jfc.