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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not displeased enough to not be there.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You mean not displeased enough to get kicked out of the service and irreparably destroy their futures.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yep. I used to work in D.C. and literally put my money where my mouth is on this one, so yep, that's exactly what I mean.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

What does working in D.C. have to do with lawful military orders?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (7 children)

So you expect them to trash their career? This isn't a job where you can easily take it or leave it. Imagine being under 40 and throwing away your retirement, starting all over.

They swore to uphold the Constitution, and so far their orders have not broken that vow.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

no, I guess it's too much to ask of the National Guard to guard the nation

land of the free, home of the brave lol...

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you expect them to trash their career?

Yes.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You typing this from prison? It's easy to sit in your house and say shit like that. Nothing is stopping you.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Yet. Let's see what they do when their orders do violate the constitution.

A buck says 99.9% of them will still be okay with it.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's how authoritarianism wins every time. Do you expect people to resist? Careers, retirements, bonuses, if not them it will be someone else, this is not illegal just immoral, oh now it's illegal but not that illegal, oh now it's illegal but my boss would yell at me if I don't do it, oh now I'm too deep, fast forward two years and you're torturing last members of opposition in your newly built concentration camp and wondering not how it went so deep so fast, but when is the lunch and will you be able to torture enough people to get a good evaluation this month.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I get all that. I agree. All I'm saying is that these troops have not broken any laws, have not violated the Constitution. Trump can only deploy them in DC for 30-days, we'll see how that plays when time's up.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I think I can answer that already

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While you're right, it is also the national guard so it's a supplemental/part-time job and not the primary job for a lot of them.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My best friend from high school did a few years in the Army, the rest was with the Guard. Not sure how it all works, then or now, but that got him to 20-years and retirement benefits.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have to do 20 years active for the full retirement. 20 years guard means you get retirement when you turn 55 or whatever. Unless you get medically retired and such.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I wondered about that. But he got some sort of deal at 39, which would be 20 years combined Army and Guard. He joined in 1989. Things different then?

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Their orders have absolutely broken that vow.

Imagine being under 40 and thinking you'll be allowed to retire....