but where were they on J6 huh
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Probably in high school as they're young boots.
All these people they keep photographing look quite displeased.
Not displeased enough to not be there.
So you expect them to trash their career? This isn't a job where you can easily take it or leave it. Imagine being under 40 and throwing away your retirement, starting all over.
They swore to uphold the Constitution, and so far their orders have not broken that vow.
Imagine being under 40 and thinking you'll be allowed to retire....
That's how authoritarianism wins every time. Do you expect people to resist? Careers, retirements, bonuses, if not them it will be someone else, this is not illegal just immoral, oh now it's illegal but not that illegal, oh now it's illegal but my boss would yell at me if I don't do it, oh now I'm too deep, fast forward two years and you're torturing last members of opposition in your newly built concentration camp and wondering not how it went so deep so fast, but when is the lunch and will you be able to torture enough people to get a good evaluation this month.
I get all that. I agree. All I'm saying is that these troops have not broken any laws, have not violated the Constitution. Trump can only deploy them in DC for 30-days, we'll see how that plays when time's up.
While you're right, it is also the national guard so it's a supplemental/part-time job and not the primary job for a lot of them.
My best friend from high school did a few years in the Army, the rest was with the Guard. Not sure how it all works, then or now, but that got him to 20-years and retirement benefits.
You have to do 20 years active for the full retirement. 20 years guard means you get retirement when you turn 55 or whatever. Unless you get medically retired and such.
I wondered about that. But he got some sort of deal at 39, which would be 20 years combined Army and Guard. He joined in 1989. Things different then?
no, I guess it's too much to ask of the National Guard to guard the nation
land of the free, home of the brave lol...
Yet. Let's see what they do when their orders do violate the constitution.
A buck says 99.9% of them will still be okay with it.
Their orders have absolutely broken that vow.
“I just joined for the free college and cheap health insurance but now they got me defending a facist regime”
That's probably not far off from their cadences 😂. "I joined up to get college for free. Now they got me in a fascist regime." That flows a bit better IMO.
Why does this seem like step one in Trump's 'I'm not leaving at the end of my term' plan?
Because he incited an insurrection the last time he didn't want to leave at the end of his term. There's no way he'll give it up this time.
Don't forget the false slates
"Just following orders"
Fun fact: during the Nuremberg trials it was determined that the "just following orders" excuse was in fact, not valid; and that someone always ought to disobey their superiors when that goes against liberty.
That's exactly why I posted that.
Only 177 people were judged in the Nuremberg trials, though. Barely a few dozens executed.
Vast majority of soldiers and civilians that were "just following orders" were indeed not condemned by their actions. At least not by any judge.
I think that’s unfair. Imagine being an impoverished American and one of your only options to afford a college education and healthcare is to join the National Guard, an organization that is rarely activated, and when they are, it’s often to actually help people during things like natural disasters. So you join, you take advantage of the benefits and can actually afford to start a family.
Then all of the sudden, you’re stuck in this situation. Leaving will get you a dishonorable discharge, stripping you and your family of healthcare. Getting another job will be difficult. Or you can just clench your teeth and maliciously comply by waffling on your responsibilities
I think it's unfair to have troops deployed in Washington DC. They took a gamble by joining and I can empathize with that. But them complying is furthering the fascist agenda.
Looks like North-Korea....
Literally twiddling their thumbs while fully dressed out in combat fatigues wasting our tax dollars by the minute. When the fuck will they turn on their handlers and stage a proper coup?
Indeed, but those soldiers are losing too. Their civilian incomes are usually higher than the poverty wages the US military provides. I would be pissed if given those orders.
Smile, you on camera just following orders.
I hope breaking your oath was worth it. I'm ashamed to see the uniform I once wore now.
What oath? They're literally just standing around doing nothing. This deployment is legal, the president is allowed to do it for 30 days. After that you might have some legal fuckery to try and get them there illegally but it's above board for now.
it's above board for now
Can't wait to continue hearing this while we all board the trains.
This deployment was legal for up to 30 days. They can only refuse illegal orders
That looks hella dystopian
Are we sure that's D.C.? Looks like the Pentagon (which is across the river in Virginia).
Its Union Station in DC. I'm sure. Source: I live here.
What is it like on a day to day basis? Do you see the presence every where you go? Are people talking about it?
Its pretty bad. Its like an ominous cloud over the city. You don't get to see them everywhere but they're pretty common. The presence of the national guard is meant to be a show of force, so they are located in prominent and visible places.
However, the National Guard has mostly kept to the sidelines. I'm more concerned about ICE, Park Police and other federal law enforcement running rampant in unmarked cars, wearing masks, and trying to make themselves unaccountable.
People in DC are definitely talking about it. Many folks elsewhere are dissapointingly quiet
Thanks! It was really bugging me that I couldn't place it from that photo, it looks like a dozen different places around d.c./nova from that angle. The only thing that didn't seem right to me was the roof.
I guess it's just the angle, but that's definitely taken on Columbus circle looking west
Traitors and also shows when we have storm disasters and need help it was wasted on this.
It's a nice shot regardless of the implications.