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[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I hope breaking your oath was worth it. I'm ashamed to see the uniform I once wore now.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 2 days ago

This deployment was legal for up to 30 days. They can only refuse illegal orders

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What oath? They're literally just standing around doing nothing. This deployment is legal, the president is allowed to do it for 30 days. After that you might have some legal fuckery to try and get them there illegally but it's above board for now.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it's above board for now

Can't wait to continue hearing this while we all board the trains.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ. Do something about it or STFU. I'm so sick of feckless leftists complaining and complaining and doing nothing about it. Be the change you want to see in the world.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

What part of my statement suggests that I'm not?

Or are you just complaining about the lack of civilians getting gunned down in the street and want to feel like a tough guy? Maybe take your own advice?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They swore to uphold the Constitution. So far their orders are within the law.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you mean the order to fight the imaginary crime wave?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump's within his rights, for 30 days. We'll see what comes next.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Again, even if the justification is 100% bogus??

This sounds like yet another move of the goal post to justify inaction

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Of course it's bogus, not sure what the remedy would be, but DC is a weird jurisdiction, he can do this for a total of 30 days.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

But if the framework of the law that allows Trump to deploy the National Guard is based on having an actual emergency and not because the moron-in-chief felt like it, then a bogus emergency does not met the mark (not been a real emergency and all)... therefore, his order is illegal

Now, if you are telling me that a president can occupy DC with the National Guard because they felt like it (i.e. no actual emergency needed), then it means you were already living in a fascist regime even before it became as obvious as it is today

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You mean this oath? The one that swears to obey the orders of the president?

“I, ________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and of the State of ______ against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to them; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of ______ and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.”

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“According to law and regulations.”

The president is breaking the oldest law we have. Around deez here parts we call that the constitution, Kyle.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So are you going to pay for the legal fight they would have and eventually lose? Will you pay their fines, fees and serve their sentence? And pay them when they can't find a job due to a dishonorable discharge?

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, use my taxes to defend people that don’t betray the constitution.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, you personally. Since that's what you're asking of these people.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes.

You can take my personal taxes and pay the people that aren’t traitors to America.

You, personally, can go do it.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

You don’t have to tell us, we know.