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Congratulations, you and people like you convinced 8 Million DNC voters to stay home in 2024, now Trump is president and a Fox News host with white supremacist tattoos is head of the DoD and pushing for the death or exodus of every single Palestinian, Israel put tanks on the ground in Gaza for the first time in two decades and started bombing Rafah with weapons that the DNC withheld previously. Blood is on your hands.
My impact was nil. Did you not read my post? I get censored and buried.
If you want someone to blame, look within, and tell the Democrats to do the same.
Running a rushed campaign with no substantive policies, tirelessly lying about tirelessly working for a ceasefire, appealing to the right, not holding primaries, pushing a senile, self-proclaimed Zionist (Biden) until the last minute (who supported the genocide unquestionably) surely didn't have anything to do with the loss.
Point is, there are a lot more than 8 million untapped voters. 1/3 of the country doesn't vote. Encourage Democrats to tap into that demographic, and pressure genocidal states just a little bit. It'd go a long way.
No, you don't understand. Anyone who even thought something approaching an unkind thought toward netanyahu singlehandedly threw out every vote cast for harris.
If that helps you sleep at night.
Your source for that article cites the Israeli officials, who btw endorsed Trump.
Nine top Biden officials admit that there was no pressure.
https://i.redd.it/itubfj2n5oxe1.png
Again, that image quotes the exact same Israeli, and there is no link to any article or anything by this Israeli news channel from there so...
You also have top Biden officials making the opposite claim that they did try everything, short of full withdrawal of support which was never going to happen because Israel is an irreplaceable asset to the US Military in the region, to bring about a ceasefire and that Netanyahu was dragging it out for the US Elections. There are quotes from staffers that old man Biden would swear at Netanyahu over the phone. There is a quote from Trump that Biden was withholding shipments of large bombs that were already paid for, shipments that Trump immediately pushed through.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-aides-finally-reveal-who-really-ran-the-country-as-biden-slid-into-mental-incompetence/ar-AA1waZeH
And aides reveal that Biden essentially wasn't running the country, but his administration sure shipped out a lot of bombs to support the war against women and children.
Regardless, I already know that you and I will likely not see eye to eye from past observance of your postings, and that's fine. You can imagine blood on my hands, and that's also fine. I did not mention the issue overseas directly ~~once~~ more than a handful of times in my postings until after the election, because I wanted to believe the Biden administration would shift after the tens of thousands of civilian deaths.
Bottom line, do you think the Democratic party should continue to be coddled, with all criticism silenced, while they have no winning strategy and even major donors have lost confidence?
There appear to be zero references of Palestine, Israel, or Netanyahu in that article. You've lost the argument so now you're just insulting the opposition?
You really don't get it. It doesn't matter how bad the DNC is, you're never going to accomplish anything by pointing all of that out, because the only alternative is the GOP and they are a thousand times worse in every regard you claim to care about.
Also, you claim they've lost donors, but they set records for campaign contributions in 2024.
...it'll never be bad enough for you.
The DNC could be a 1:1 copy of Trump and they'd still defend them.
They converge on that with every election.
Literally as Newsom is being basically appointed without consulting the public. And he's a right winger form 2008.
Where is the insult? We were quoting Biden officials, I thought it relevant to link that in response to you mentioning Biden swearing on the phone, which likely had zero impact. Biden wasn't fit for office or reelection, and the reason the Democrats lost is because he held on until the last minute, making a primary impossible. In no world would Kamala have won under the circumstances with her policies.
I'm not interested in winning arguments regarding critical subjects like this, but rather trying to get to the heart of your insistence to support a system that is blind and unwilling to represent its populace, who pay for the bombs that have killed many innocents.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/18/dnc-fundraising-donor-problems-midterms-00512473
The DNC has lost major donors.
Edit: And I did lie, not purposely, but alas. I mentioned the genocide twice or thrice prior to the election, with one instance garnering me one internet point and another losing me one. I remember doing my best to hold my tongue. I convinced no one to stay home as far as I am concerned, and even if I did somehow, that was their decision.