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EDIT: no, I don't sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they're losing an argument ;)

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[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I support whatever this is so idk what that makes me

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Celebrating an increase in life expectancy from 30 to 40 years old is not remotely the win you think it is.

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm celebrating the increase in life expectancy from 35 to higher than that of the US, actually, which is the win I think it is.

The point is not the immediate increase in that specific 5 year period, the point is the clear trend of rapid, long term increases after a long period of stagnation, with the pivitol turning point being exactly when the CPC came to power. You're supposed to look at the whole graph.

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

China never manipulates data coming out of their authoritarian country so good thing we can trust it. I'm sure their life expectancy is great with all their industrial pollution that regularly causes smog in their inner cities.

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here is my source do you have a source that disputes that? Or is your belief based entirely on unfalsifiable faith?

Also curious if you think Chinese life expectancy is still like 35 or what lmao

You may also be interested in what the World Bank, that infamous communist propaganda rag, has to say:

Over the past 40 years, the number of people in China with incomes below $1.90 per day – the International Poverty Line as defined by the World Bank to track global extreme poverty– has fallen by close to 800 million. With this, China has contributed close to three-quarters of the global reduction in the number of people living in extreme poverty.

No one in China is over 50. If you're over 50 in China they just shoot you, and then they lie and say they didn't.

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[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My god he can't read a graph. How has our educational system been allowed to fail for this long?

I'm not committed at all to China as the salvation of the communist project, but it's exactly this sort of self-imposed illiteracy and ignorance, and nearly religious faith in the inferiority and duplicity of The Orient that makes me default to distrusting anything negative a cracker says about it.

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

let's skip to the end of the discussion: I say "that's not anything like what I said." you say "yes but you believe those statistics are true???" I say "do you have any good evidence that they're fabricated, and that the life expectancy in China is actually still hovering around 40?" you beg the question, possibly implying that Chinese people are inherently untrustworthy, and accuse me of supporting genocide. There is nothing I can say to you that will instill an ounce of critical thinking ability in you.

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