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[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Celebrating an increase in life expectancy from 30 to 40 years old is not remotely the win you think it is.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm celebrating the increase in life expectancy from 35 to higher than that of the US, actually, which is the win I think it is.

The point is not the immediate increase in that specific 5 year period, the point is the clear trend of rapid, long term increases after a long period of stagnation, with the pivitol turning point being exactly when the CPC came to power. You're supposed to look at the whole graph.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

China never manipulates data coming out of their authoritarian country so good thing we can trust it. I'm sure their life expectancy is great with all their industrial pollution that regularly causes smog in their inner cities.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Here is my source do you have a source that disputes that? Or is your belief based entirely on unfalsifiable faith?

Also curious if you think Chinese life expectancy is still like 35 or what lmao

You may also be interested in what the World Bank, that infamous communist propaganda rag, has to say:

Over the past 40 years, the number of people in China with incomes below $1.90 per day – the International Poverty Line as defined by the World Bank to track global extreme poverty– has fallen by close to 800 million. With this, China has contributed close to three-quarters of the global reduction in the number of people living in extreme poverty.

No one in China is over 50. If you're over 50 in China they just shoot you, and then they lie and say they didn't.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would expect you to understand unless you've read theory.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What theory would that be, lol?

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand. In Fountainhead, she goes in depth about how Chinese life expectancy statistics are generally made up.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand

michael-laugh

That's incredible, I honestly did not see that one coming.

So tell me, what's your best guess at what Chinese life expectancy was before the CPC came to power, and what do you think it is now? Do you dispute the numbers from before the communists were even in power? Or do you think they're still living in mud huts?

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (21 children)

The Fountainhead is a novel about an American architect that has nothing to do with China. They're doing a weird bit, presumably about how evil tankies asking them to read books is cheating.

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[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You can laugh, but communist oppression is no laughing matter. Please see this article where Ben Shapiro writes a thesis-level takedown of the mythos of Chinese life expectancy.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Please, I've read that article countless times. Here is a response that breaks down all the flaws in his argument.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No don't bother linking your dumb policies that you guys never abide by.

I'm merely acting reflexively to the behaviors I constantly observe from Hexbear users.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We always abide by the PPB, tyvm! soviet-huff

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No, but whenever you guys get "dunked on", you compulsively link to it like a goddamned Manchurian candidate.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm just gonna say, if you're still posting rickrolls in 2023, you don't have a lot of room to talk about unoriginal bits.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Man, you really didn't like being wrong, huh.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's impossible to engage in good faith debates with what is essentially the QAnon of the left.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

QAnon, well known for being able to provide evidence for their beliefs from credible sources.

Aren't you the one that's more like QAnon, since you're going purely off vibes and faith?

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Aren’t you the one that’s more like QAnon, since you’re going purely off vibes and faith?

"no, u"

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I haven't seen that movie, does a pig shit on its own balls?

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Serious question - is that normal for pigs or is something wrong with it?

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[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You have a bright future as a circus clown

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

You just didn't bother clicking that Benny Shaps link, did ya?

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[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

My god he can't read a graph. How has our educational system been allowed to fail for this long?

I'm not committed at all to China as the salvation of the communist project, but it's exactly this sort of self-imposed illiteracy and ignorance, and nearly religious faith in the inferiority and duplicity of The Orient that makes me default to distrusting anything negative a cracker says about it.