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Politico reports that at a Hamptons fundraiser last Saturday, Cuomo told his well-heeled supporters that, contrary to all available evidence, he could win the New York mayoral race as an independent—because he was likely to have the implicit support of President Donald Trump.

The imperative of defeating Mamdani justified the new coalition Cuomo is trying to create of his die-hard loyalists (who are Democrats) with Trump Republicans.

Some of that latter group might be tempted to back Curtis Sliwa, the actual GOP nominee in the race. Cuomo told these donors, “We can minimize [the Sliwa] vote, because he’ll never be a serious candidate. And Trump himself, as well as top Republicans, will say the goal is to stop Mamdani. And you’ll be wasting your vote on Sliwa.” Cuomo went on to emphasize that he’d be a mayor who could find common ground with Trump:

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[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're missing the point I think. People want better politicians, Democrats are better than Republicans meaningfully but not so meaningfully that they could fix the issues we're seeing in society. People like Cuomo and Newson are just power hungry people, who may be better than Trump but the people won't be satisfied with replacing their turd sandwich with ultra processed fast food, they want a healthy nutritious meal. Newson is fast food, it's a meaningful step up from turd sandwich but it won't fix the American diet.

It's Germany being upset at the traffic light coalition and then electing Merz. They went from one back stabbing party to unhealthy and destructive fast food. This will only upset people enough to eventually elect their version of a turd sandwich - the AFD.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're missing the point. If we don't back the imperfection in this FPTP system and then pass meaningful reforms the which we haven't had enough senators to do in over 10 years, we're going to end up in a racist theocratic dictatorship which will make even something as horrible as China or Russia blush. The world will devolve into war which will leave hundreds of millions in perpetual suffering. The rich elite are the only people benefiting from this downfall.

People want something better than Democrats? Then we're all going to fucking die.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

You’re missing the point. If we don’t back the imperfection in this FPTP system and then pass meaningful reforms the which we haven’t had enough senators to do in over 10 years, we’re going to end up in a racist theocratic dictatorship which will make even something as horrible as China or Russia blush.

Well, we can pre-blame the voters for not liking what Democrats continue to sell, just like we blame the left for Kamala's decision to court Republican voters instead of Democrat voters, or we could recognize that I guess Newsom's got a very generous four years ahead to make himself an attractive choice on the basis of being something more than just not Trump and yet more warnings about the end of the world as we know it. (Which, by the way, I completely agree is happening-edit:the end of the world, not Newsom making himself attractive in more ways than that)

Maybe modified maga AI memes will be all it takes for enough people. I'm not that enthused by just aping what maga does, but it seems like a lot of people are. The gerrymandering thing is good, but it's also a slam dunk because he's fucking with Abbot and Trump, so let's see if he abandons less safe positions or shows he'll fight for any of them.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I do blame people who chose not to vote for Kamala. I really do. Blood on their hands.

This should have been the easiest fucking choice and they blew it.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

This should have been the easiest fucking choice and they blew it.

Totally agreed. But do I blame them? No, I fucking get it. They need to own that they contributed in some way to what's going on, but that doesn't mean I don't get it.

So do you want to blame them again next time, or would you rather kick D in the ass so they stop running the 2016 and earlier playbook?

I'm not voting for R-lite again, and for whatever small degree of difference there is between the two, I'm not voting 2016-era-D again either.

It's their job to show me they support my values, not my job to convince myself they do, then hope I'm right. I've been voting that way for decades and I'm done with it.

Conservatives and centrists already elected modern Hitler. There's no bigger bogeyman to hang in front of us next time. It's time for D to be actual opposition. Time to stop ignoring progressives except to blame them for their own failure to evolve. Time to admit they've got a lot of people still in power who haven't been able to relate to most of the electorate for thirty years, and many of them are in those positions because of nothing but internal power brokerage and politicking. Otherwise D better hope there's enough non-crazy R and conservative D left to keep them in power on their own, if they still plan on winning elections fair and square. The pool of people who are about done with the old ways and the oligarchs isn't shrinking, it's getting bigger.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I blame them. Blood on their hands. I don't pretend to understand any reasoning behind it besides pure ignorance.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Choosing blame over change is a time honored establishment-Democrat tradition so I get it. You do you man, some people find that more comforting anyhow.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Identifying the problems is how we come up with solutions. I can't control who the winning candidate campaigns alongside, but I can convince people that the enemies of the DNC are all of our enemies. Being confronted isn't likely to change the person on the receiving end but it certainly makes onlookers think about their own stance.

We need to reform the electoral process and there is only one way to do that: remove as many GOP from office as possible. Volunteer for the DNC. If your candidate loses the primary? Doesn't matter, Republicans are worse.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

It's their job to show me they support my values, not my job to convince myself they do, then hope I'm right.

 

Identifying the problems is how we come up with solutions.

You are trying to treat the symptom, not the problem.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

If the candidate who supports 90% of your values doesn't support your values in your eyes thatd your problem. If people would rather let somebody who supports the opposite of their values in than the 90%, that's our problem.