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But you better vote for centrist genocider corporatists (who hate you) in the next election, or the centrist commenters on lemmy will NEVER FORGIVE YOU.
*eyeroll
I mean, yeah, until the revolution is televised you can only choose the least evil.
And the margin between greatest and least evil will continue to narrow.
Yet it is still prudent to vote for the least one.
Not if the centrists can yank endorsements from popular progressives. It, worse still, actively collaborate with fascists to remove them.
Choosing between Hitler and Himmler is no choice
Sorry but calling Republicans and Democrats Hitler and Himmler is not reflective of reality and honestly pretty deranged. There is a choice, and it's clear which is more damaging.
When to parties endorse the same Holocaust? What other parallel am I supposed to draw?
Maybe Naftali Bennett and Benjamin Netanyahu?
The difference between conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats is that Democrats are "civil" to Republican elites and Republicans don't return the favor.
For everyone else, it's the same boot on your neck. The same wars overseas. The same prisons at home. The same police getting another big pay increase to harass homeless people. The same bailouts for banks and the tech sector.
Dems couldn't even close the torture prison at Guantanamo Bay. They just had to keep brutalizing people, indefinitely.
Until centrists get their way and there is no margin.
okay well when both sides are literally exactly the same, then we can protest vote
Have fun chasing fascists to the right until then.
of course fascists go to the right, what kind of nonsense is that? Democrats are still the best option
Democrats keep chasing fascists as they sprint to the right. And they're moving to the right faster than the fascists because the gap keeps narrowing.
I am somehow directly responsible for the defeat of every moderate chump, but utterly superfluous to every victory
Because of America’s two-party system, your only options are to:
A) vote for your preferred candidate in the primary, but against a candidate in the general election.
B) stay at home, tacitly supporting whatever the election outcome is.
Except the "lesser" evil party doesn't hold honest primaries, if they bother to hold them at all.
I've got a bunch of people I know who told me "I voted for Trump during the primary in order to sabotage the Republicans".
When I asked why they didn't just back a stronger Democrat, most thought Dems already had their person picked out so their primary vote didn't matter.
Kind of horrifying that this is the state of the "pro-Democracy" party's internal selection process.
I would argue that’s a gross over-simplification, and put forward the members of The Squad, Mamdami and the above-mentioned Minneapolis candidate winning their respect primaries as proof.
Of course, the monied interests who have established a hold on the Dem party will fight dirty to try and oppose - but this should be expected from any opponent, because if they didn’t - the Reps would definitely do so.
It actually can even work in their favour politically if they can weather the storm early, as the impact of counter-messaging gets blunted over time.
You just need to remember it’s always going to be a battle of four boxes; the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.
And I'll counter with squad members Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush, who the party didn't protect, even though it "protects incumbents" when they're shitheels like Coathanger Cuellar. The party is still trying to ratfuck Mamdani and Fateh.
Loving the double standard here. Progressives are obligated to shut the fuck up and pretend they love genocide as much as every last centrist always has and always will, but when a progressive wins their primary, centrists go from "no matter who" back to "party unity my ass." The party is doing republicans' work for them, and gladly. They prefer republicans to progressives. All centrists do.
That's a cool line. But when you see who liberal Dems are battling in favor of...
this is the fucking ticket. get rid of the fucking corpocrats before they get rid of your preferred candidates.