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Democrat reformists finding out that Democrats will only play dirty against the left. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 days ago by geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world

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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Because of America’s two-party system, your only options are to:

A) vote for your preferred candidate in the primary, but against a candidate in the general election.

B) stay at home, tacitly supporting whatever the election outcome is.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

vote for your preferred candidate in the primary

Except the "lesser" evil party doesn't hold honest primaries, if they bother to hold them at all.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

I've got a bunch of people I know who told me "I voted for Trump during the primary in order to sabotage the Republicans".

When I asked why they didn't just back a stronger Democrat, most thought Dems already had their person picked out so their primary vote didn't matter.

Kind of horrifying that this is the state of the "pro-Democracy" party's internal selection process.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I would argue that’s a gross over-simplification, and put forward the members of The Squad, Mamdami and the above-mentioned Minneapolis candidate winning their respect primaries as proof.

Of course, the monied interests who have established a hold on the Dem party will fight dirty to try and oppose - but this should be expected from any opponent, because if they didn’t - the Reps would definitely do so.

It actually can even work in their favour politically if they can weather the storm early, as the impact of counter-messaging gets blunted over time.

You just need to remember it’s always going to be a battle of four boxes; the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

I would argue that’s a gross over-simplification, and put forward the members of The Squad, Mamdami and the above-mentioned Minneapolis candidate winning their respect primaries as proof.

And I'll counter with squad members Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush, who the party didn't protect, even though it "protects incumbents" when they're shitheels like Coathanger Cuellar. The party is still trying to ratfuck Mamdani and Fateh.

Of course, the monied interests who have established a hold on the Dem party will fight dirty to try and oppose - but this should be expected from any opponent, because if they didn’t - the Reps would definitely do so.

Loving the double standard here. Progressives are obligated to shut the fuck up and pretend they love genocide as much as every last centrist always has and always will, but when a progressive wins their primary, centrists go from "no matter who" back to "party unity my ass." The party is doing republicans' work for them, and gladly. They prefer republicans to progressives. All centrists do.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago

You just need to remember it’s always going to be a battle of four boxes

That's a cool line. But when you see who liberal Dems are battling in favor of...

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

A) vote for your preferred candidate in the primary

this is the fucking ticket. get rid of the fucking corpocrats before they get rid of your preferred candidates.