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The homeowner told police the two men said they were police and claimed they were at the home to serve a warrant.

[The homeowner] became suspicious, because, you know, they have a ring camera too, and the suspects were saying they had a warrant, but it was just two people and they're masked up and no police cars, no lights or anything like that," said Lt. Khan with HPD.

At some point, police said the men shot at the homeowner through the door, prompting the homeowner to return fire.

The homeowner was not hurt in the gunfire, but the two men were both hit and pronounced dead at the scene.

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[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This definitely shows a lot of perspective, thank you!

I really wish people looked at these cases more objectively, considering the humans involved and not simply:

"How can I paint this to forward my narrative obsession of the moment?"

It's like our entire society is based around social media clout farming. I know weaponized reporting is nothing new, but sheesh.

I wouldn't feel I had much choice either, if someone who just robbed a neighbor was charging at me in the dark. Suddenly after the fact, the internet is chock full of experts in ballistics and self defense law.

But you're right, it definitely defeated a future threat to the neighborhood residents. I haaaaate suburban Rambo Nextdoor toughguys as much as the next reasonable person, but this doesn't sound like that.

There's plenty of systemic issues to tackle around crime, but breaking into peoples' homes to loot and potentially harm them is always a choice carrying a significant weight of FAFO.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Saying non-violent burglars and drug users deserve to die because Joe really wanted an excuse to kill isn't exactly objective.

The only witness to the killing was a plainclothes officer who said he shot people in the back while fleeing.

Stealing shit isn't a capital offense. As a society, we decided long ago that even a judge and jury can't kill someone for burglary. Why is it okay when the psycho neighbor who isn't even a victim does it?

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Breaking into a home isn't non-violent. People break into places that they THINK are empty all the time or have the victims come home during the robbery all the time. If they keep doing this they will with 100% certitude come into direct conflict sooner rather than later. Furthermore the act of violating someone's home is inherently a violation. Your argument is like saying rape is non-violent if nobody fights back.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago

Breaking into a home isn't "non-violent."