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As an individual: Definitely leave. Generally I think some people ought to shut up and get the hell out instead of impotently complaining online.
I think what these posters are asking about, though, is how it is possible that the American people in aggregate support this system? And they do. Just like how about half of Israelis support Netanyahu. Sure sure. Electoral college, voting system, bla bla. Trump won the popular vote against Harris. How? This is clearly an electorate that itself is the problem. The people of the US doesn't suffer under its government. The people of the US suffers because it chooses to.
Leave to become an immigrant in another country that ends up deporting us?
Using all this money that we don't have?
Bringing our direct family with us, tearing them away from friendships and other family?
Cool idea
I see you want to live in the US after all. Valid thing to do. But don't complain about the consequences.
And what about the consequences of leaving? You expect me to think the US is the only country that has been becoming more hostile to immigrants?
you act as if leaving a country like the US, and emigrating to another is that easy? its not the EU where you can move much more freely in the continent. cultural, financial, language barriers exists.
You can move freely in the EU, but all the non-legal barriers are the same as everywhere else.
I literally don't have the money to leave