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Exclusive: Jeremy Corbyn on building a new party to transform British politics
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Someone please tell me why I shouldn't be optimistic about this.
Because we have FPTP and this will further split the left vote and let Reform / Tories in.
Our number one priority should be to kill FPTP and make it so we don't have governments only a minority of the voters wanted.
We know a Corbyn Labour party scares people to vote against Labour. He has a ceiling. There is a lot of country that subscribes to his views, but not enough to do more than strip those votes from Lab/Lib/SNP/Green/Plaid.
Reform are worse than Tories and I fear if they ever get power, they do a Trump. Damage the country and be hard to remove.
They will at the very least need a pact with Polanski's Greens. If Starmer continues down his current trajectory, I can see a similar exodus of Labour voters to these two to Tory voters' exodus to Reform
If you go from Labour to Reform, your not of the Left. Or fooled. Guess will find out if the left is so split by election time and Reform splip in. I'm blame Corybn for that like I do for Boris's win. That time it was by repelling people to the Tories. This time it would be vote splitting. Though I agree with a good chunk of what he says, he a political menace of the left.
I'm just assuming this guy made his own party because the other options don't actually fight for the working class.
If the party you support's main goal is to "kill their enemies" or whatever, perhaps the best way to go about doing that would be to align itself with the working class.
This would intrinsically mean supporting policies that reduce the disparity in wealth.
I think all the left wing parties agree there is a problem with in equality. If the left splitters off to load into so many parties, it will lose. No matter if it makes up over half the electorate. FPTP is basically rigged against the left because the left struggle to compromise and unify.
I don't know a great deal, but his stance on the Russia/Ukraine war concerns me.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corbyn-urges-west-to-stop-arming-ukraine
He is anti war. He has been anti war for decades and decades. He is authentic and consistent on this issue. I don't agree how he is applying that principle on Russia Ukraine, but I respect his opinion.
And that's democracy, which is what his new party is making promises of - it will be a bottom up, grass-root and democratic party. So I am not too concerned with Corbyn's personal opinion.
(And like, the detractors are so fixated on this issue. They literally have nothing else to say, no other critics to offer. You mention Corbyn and immediately they are like "oH wHat aBoUt Russia-Ukraine" (a few years ago it was "oH bUt He iS an aNtiSemIte???"), as if that is the single most significant problem Britain is facing right now?? not housing, not NHS, not education, not the gutting of the wealth of the working class??? Talking about single issue voters. (sorry about the rant))
He is not anti-war, he is pro-russian genocidal imperialism.
He is a tankie, and when has the working class done well under regimes that tankies support?
Lol dude, your brian is melted. What are you even saying.
Don't see that objectionable stuff in there, really. I'm in favour of arming Ukraine. This article is several years old. It's not like Starmer stopped the war either. In fact, I think most Western European politicians have an interest in the war dragging on for as long as possible
Nah, he openly supports the annexation of Crimea (which means he supports the prosecution of Ukrainian speakers and Crimean Tartars).
The stuff about western leaders wanting the war to drag on as long as possible is a tankie conspiracy theory.
I was wondering if what you were saying about Corbyn was true, so I looked up most of your claims (all true for those I checked), and I thought I'd share what I found for others.
Corbyn used Russian talking points as justification for not wanting to do anything about Russia's conquest of Crimea: http://www.hscentre.org/russia-and-eurasia/corbyn-wrong-says-ukrainian-human-rights-legend/
Corbyn has indeed worked with RT. This article called him a frequent guest: https://www.thearticle.com/rt-is-putins-propaganda-channel-so-why-do-british-politicians-agree-to-appear-on-it
Corbyn is indeed against NATO: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyn-did-call-for-nato-to-disband-but-its-labour-policy-to-stay-in
And Corbyn does indeed oppose weapon deliveries to Ukraine because "it would prolong the war": https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/26/labour-left-breaks-with-jeremy-corbyn-over-sending-weapons-to-ukraine
As I mentioned in this thread, only an idiot would think such matters wouldn't be reported in Ukrainian media (that has no stake in internal UK politics).
[1] actually referenced a different specific example, but the point remains.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/t5uaq4/private_eye_used_an_actual_image_from_stop_the/
The image in that reddit thread is from "Stop the War" fake-peace, pro russian genocidal imperialism organization. And that tankie Corbyn roach has a senior position in that shit org.
He Putin's basically. Maybe out of naivety, but the result is the same.
If he supports it so openly, why is there only evidence of the opposite? Do you need your meds?
Don't lie. His fake peacenik organisation recognized Crimea as part of russia.
Imagine being given the opportunity to fact check yourself, and instead choosing to fall deeper into delusion and paranoia. I’m sorry for you
Keep playing dumb. You don't even speak Ukrainian (or russian) and you're acting like some sort authority with you "opportunity to fact check yourself".
You don't know jack shit (and we both know this). Keep pretending otherwise. 😄
Here’s a hint: You will never come up with a source for your beliefs because you’d have to admit you’ve been played first.
It’s human to fall for it now and then. You’re amongst the majority.
I hope you get help
Nah, you talk big but you can't even state Corbyn's idiotic position on the full scale invasion of Ukraine without looking it up first (if you actually knew, you would have brought it up because it makes a very specific reference for someone in the UK, it's been parroted by other fake leftists too).
I don't need to do a web search, because I know Corbyn's position:
I don't even need to do a web search for this, because this relatively common knowledge in Ukraine (among people who know who Corbyn is).
But sure, Mr. Arcane2077, who doesn't even speak Ukrainian or russian claims to be more knowledgeable than someone who lives in Ukraine and where collaboration with russians by scum such a Corbyn is widely reported.
Own your ignorance my man, don't keep digging into the hole of stupidity that characterizes your knowledge of the relevant issues.
You keep pretending I’m speaking with authority when asking for a source for your outlandish claims. Says more about you than me lmao
https://feddit.uk/post/35181984/19647124
So he did nothing he’s being accused of. Did you even read the contents of the links in the comment you sent me? God you people are so tiring
I skimmed them as I knew most of it already. I've seen him say stuff about Russia that disgusts me before.
Good follow up post : https://feddit.uk/post/35181984/19652057
If Corybn wants support from people like me, he needs to come out loudly condemning Putin's actions and support Ukraine. Being anti-war is a massively stupid position against someone like Putin.
I think it's pretty obvious and I despise tankies. Look at what they're doing, not just what they're saying. Russia is a serious threat and they're finally seeing it. Better to have them fighting in Ukraine than their country
Edit: speaking of nasty conspiracy theories, btw, Starmerites calling Corbyn an antisemite was really the lowest of the low. Labour has been taken over by neoliberals fighting the left harder than the right
Edit: oh no I angered the tankies lol
What they are doing (being slow and inconsistent with weapon deliveries) is driven is by fear and the receptiveness of their electorates to russian sabre rattling (even thought such strategies are openly described in key russian doctrinal texts) and russian propaganda.
I hate Corbyn, but I don't think he is an anti-semite (or maybe I just don't know enough). There is more than enough things to call him out for beyond vague notions of anti-semitism.
Funny how, according to this article, his stance on Russia/Ukraine is "Palestine should be free". Really concerning stuff.
You find calling for peace talks concerning?
Calling for peace talks in this situation is like calling for marriage in couples counseling of a failing relationship, because married couples stay together longer.
Peace talks don't create peace, they happen when peace becomes desirable because of battlefield and political realities. Arming Ukraine more can shorten the war. Calling for premature talks can only prolong it.