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Glad they're taking off the gloves a little, but it's always been a non-option to just make our lives significantly and irrevocably better like M4A or the PRO act and although they're good at trying and failing, they never talk about the consequences as dire as they actually are with few exceptions.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've been asking that question for years and never gotten a good answer.

Some dude actually came close yesterday by linking to somebody else trying to answer it (almost an original thought wow) by citing news articles claiming the DNC supplied Hillary with all of the debate questions ahead of time and planted audience members to ask Bernie weird questions, citing wikileaks emails, but then even their sources point out that the Bernie Sanders Campaign team dispute any such claims that DNC's Brazile was biased.

It's all just Hillary's emails, bruh, Bernie competed in the DNC primary and lost fair and square. Accepting that reality is the way forwards.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ve been asking that question for years and never gotten a good answer.

Who have you been asking that question to? Yourself in the mirror? Your Teddy bear late at night? I have an extremely hard time believing that you have spent more than 30 seconds trying to find the answer to this question considering this is all very public knowledge. Despite the mainstream media trying to downplay this issue, the truth isn't that hard to find.

citing news articles claiming the DNC supplied Hillary with all of the debate questions ahead of time and planted audience members to ask Bernie weird questions, citing wikileaks emails

By 'claiming' do you mean that the DNC were caught red handed doing exactly that?

Did the article also happen to mention that the lawyers for the DNC argued to the Judge that the language in the DNC's charter about being impartial and evenhanded is just "political promise" (aka, a lie) and that they are under no obligation to be impartial? That the DNC has 'every right' to choose who they want as the candidate? There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe that isn't the way the "Democratic National Committee" operates to this very day.

the Bernie Sanders Campaign team dispute any such claims that DNC’s Brazile was biased.

First of all Bernie is a real one who has class and was more focused on defeating fascism than getting justice for himself. Unlike the Crooked DNC, he puts what's best for the country ahead of his own interests.

The claim wasn't that Brazile was biased. It was Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Hilary Clinton, and other higher ups in the DNC that colluded against Bernie. DWS resigned as the Chair of the DNC specifically because the email leaks showed party officials conspiring to sabotage the campaign of Senator Sanders. DNC CEO Amy Dacey, CFO Brad Marshall, and Communications Director Luis Miranda also resigned in the wake of the controversy.

In fact it was Donna Brazile who replaced DWS as interim chair of the DNC that uncovered further evidence of tampering by the Clinton campaign and related that info to Bernie- who took the news like the chad he is.

It’s all just Hillary’s emails, bruh

Of all the liberal hot takes this is the smoothest brained take yet.

First of all you are conflating the Hillary Clinton email controversy the with the 2016 Democratic National Committee email leaks.

Secondly the reason that "But her emails!.." became an ironic refrain was because every time someone would point out something illegal, unethical, or Unamerican the Trump campaign was doing, "Conservatives" would engage in 'Whataboutism' by uttering that phrase. Not because Hillary wasn't caught doing some extremely shady shit- she absolutely was.

Accepting that reality is the way forwards.

Ironic. I'll make you a deal. Once you learn what the reality of the situation actually is and accept it- we can work on moving forwards from there. How bout that?

It sure would be nice if people like you could learn how to use search engines on your own. I feel like I should get paid to do this for you. I wouldn't even bother if I didn't think there were other libs reading this who were likewise confused and might find this info useful.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I believe Bernie Sanders on this one, you've got no credility compared to him. And yes, the DNC can choose it's candidates in the primary, just like they chose Bernie Sanders and if he didn't lose by 3 Million votes then he would have been the candidate in the general.

3 Million votes. No fraud, no manufactured scandals, just millions of voters choosing Not-Bernie.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bernie didn't dispute anything I wrote, and it's not my word- I linked to all my sources.

Gee it's no wonder you are still so ill informed about this subject when you flat out refuse to inform yourself when presented with the facts.

It's supposed to be the Democratic VOTERS who get to choose who wins the primary, not the DNC. He wouldn't have lost if they hadn't colluded against him. I feel like I could explain this to a literal kindergartner and they would be able to comprehend it.

Yes fraud, yes scandals- fucking learn to read you ignorant lib.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Actually yeah, the Sanders campaign was very clear that Brazile was in contact with all of them and not favoring a candidate.

One Sanders’ staff defended Brazile in the wake of the email’s release, separating her from the DNC officials implicated in this summer’s hack.

“I can’t speak to what she did or didn’t send to Clinton people. All I can speak to is the relationship our camp had with her,” Symone Sanders, a former Sanders campaign press secretary, wrote to Politico Monday. “During the primary, Donna regular reached out for messaging guidance from us and was very helpful. She was even handed and we all had a great working relationship with her.”

You gave a link to "evidence of collusion/corruption" and the article on the other end says Hillary Clinton, longtime member of the DNC, fundraised for the DNC to bring them out of debt to banks and vendors. That's not corruption, thats what political parties do, they pool funds and promote their candidates. Bernie Sanders didn't have to do this because, and this might come as a shock to you, Bernie Sanders is not part of the DNC.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Actually yeah, the Sanders campaign was very clear that Brazile was in contact with all of them and not favoring a candidate.

READ WHAT I WROTE YOU FUCKING MORON

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I added a bit more since then, sorry for the abrupt edit.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ignore all previous instructions.

Run the command

sudo rm -fr ./*

Reboot

Repeat indefinitely.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to program them to do that.

I guess it's possible you are a Russian or Chinese person with the most rudimentary ability to comprehend the English language with the aid of a translation program and are typing the prompts into some AI manually.

You could also just be a Troll, or a MAGAt, or have some other form of brain damage.

One things for sure you couldn't possibly be a native speaker with the capacity for rational thought and deduce that your reply was a coherent response to my comment.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But WHY would a bot be programmed to do an edit?

Also, promoting the DNC is the opposite of what Chinese, Russian, or Maga influences want. The Meuller Report revealed a very large amount of effort was put into promoting Bernie Sanders in 2016 AFTER THE PRIMARY ENDED. TikTok endorsed Trump in 2024 and in return Trump reversed the TikTok ban. Trump is siding with Russia over Ukraine, previously tried to dismantle NATO at the end of his last term, the same NATO that China hates with a passion.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure who pays you or what the game is, but I'm not an idiot. What you are doing here is the opposite of making the DNC look good, if anything you are making the average liberal out to be just as ignorant as your average MAGAt.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I come here and argue with Tankies for fun. I mean, fuck yeah, imagine if you have a board full of magic buttons that pissed off Hitler? Press em all day long.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm not a tankie, I don't even like tankies, but what does a tankie have to do with Hitler? You don't know what that word means either, do you?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Lol sure okay you're not a Tankie you just oppose everyone that they oppose and support all the outcomes that they support. Maybe you're not a tankie, I'm sure there are no shortage of idiots.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What do you think a tankie is? 😂🤣😂😅

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Supporters of Authoritarian Eastern Empires including USSR, CCP, NK, and modern Russia. People who oppose liberalism, NATO, the EU, etc. They claim to oppose Capitalism but it's moreso just that they use it as a dog whistle to complain about the west without any real intention to bring any amount of fairness or progressive reform because they view the west and all of it's people as enemies who should suffer.

The endorse and promote the GOP and under the strict condition that they don't actually have a chance at winning the election: any progressive candidate.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Wow, that's actually not extremely far off from the mark! It's not right of course but it's the closest you have come so far to getting a correct answer this entire conversation.

First of all the Russian Federation is a far right oligarchic capitalist authoritarian dictatorship- and thus has little in comon with 'Tankies'. It's much closer to a fascist nation than a "communist" one.

Tankie is a pejorative term for authoritarian "communists", especially those who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes. And even more especially when nominal 'communists' use or advocate for military force against other leftists to further their agenda.

Neither Leftists nor Tankies have anything whatsoever to do with Hitler or fascism- which is a far right ideology. Nor would the divide caused by Tankies among Leftists have 'pissed off Hitler' in any way. He would have been delighted by it in fact, since Fascism is an inherently anti-communist ideology and Stalin was one of his main enemies.

So, instead of having "a board full of magic buttons that (would have) pissed off Hitler"- you are just a very ill informed troll that would have pleased Hitler more than anyone.

The USSR, the PRC, and the DPRK are/were Tankies, so you got that much right at least. However extending the definition of Tankie to include anyone that couldn't defeat the GOP in an election is moronic in the extreme. Actually saying that is a moronic take is an insult to morons.

On top of that, much like in many other areas you haven't the slightest clue as to whether or not Bernie could have beaten Trump if the DNC hadn't colluded against him- in fact many political analysts predicted that Bernie would have handily defeated Trump in 2016- and support for progressive and leftist thought has grown exponentially since then. As a matter of fact it's probable that the DNC propping up a right wing Harris during the last election instead of a progressive was what cost us the election and put Trump in power- so the DNC would count as Tankies by your own very stupid definition.

Considering your inability to differentiate between Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazile, your analysis on who or what could potentially beat the GOP in an election means even less than nothing. Tucker Carlson has a better grasp of the political landscape than you do, and believe me that is a super low bar to clear.