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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think there is certainly an element to travel tourism that has soured a lot of people, but also the world has become a very cynical place to live in. Mass tourism machines like cruise ships have several layers of issues to them, but they are also the economic centers of many marine locations that wouldn't be what they are without them, but that's also sort of the problem with them.

Add into it the cheap air fares, etc... and it opened up the world to the average Joe, who has not the best manners or realistic expectations all the time.

Then, add in the fact there are too damn many of us on this planet that anywhere remotely interesting to visit is packed from dawn to dusk and it gets annoying having to wait for things all the time, especially at home for the 3 months or so people want to see your little stretch of the world.

I get it. I don't agree with it all but I get it. I work in tourism to a degree. We are spread too far, everywhere you go there is more of us.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mass tourism machines like cruise ships have several layers of issues to them, but they are also the economic centers of many marine locations that wouldn't be what they are without them, but that's also sort of the problem with them.

Very bad example for your point. The port towns visited profit very little from the cruise ships. People sleep, eat and shop on their ship, the local economy sees almost no benefit but the streets are clogged by their day trips.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I'm talking about how bad things like cruise ships are and you are saying I am wrong and then backing me up? Small ports rely heavily on cruise ship visits, large ports fucking hate them. Alaska is basically oil and gas and cruise ships that keep it floating.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

anywhere remotely interesting to visit is packed from dawn to dusk

That's a bit of an exaggeration, I've been having the time of my life here in vietnam, just ask the locals for some ideas and check Google maps for traffic to avoid the one everyone is already going to, and you'll have a beach, mountain, beautiful twisty roads along rivers and mountains, local swimming hole, etc to yourself and like 3 or 4 locals who you have to flee before they invite you to lunch, introduce the whole family, then dinner, then to sleep at their place, marry their daughter, etc.

Its not an issue of too many people, just everyone goes to the same exact place because some influencer recommended it.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Add into it the cheap air fares, etc… and it opened up the world to the average Joe, who has not the best manners or realistic expectations all the time.

Should only rich people should be able to travel? People with more money also have more manners?

add in the fact there are too damn many of us on this planet that anywhere remotely interesting to visit is packed from dawn to dusk and it gets annoying having to wait for things all the time

Just dropping this here: Debunking ‘overpopulation’

There is a football stadium near my home. Those fans should all stay home. I bet some don't even come from my city. They make public transit busy when there are games! Why do we have to share this world with others?!

EDIT: I don't want to seem like I entirely disagree but again, capitalism and mass tourism. Social media is also to blame. Societal hype. But if you think you have to wait everywhere that's "worth" visiting, maybe you can try to spread out. We don't all have to go visit the Eiffel tower or the same national park in Croatia.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't don't think it should be just for rich people, but when i was a kid it was rare to travel far abroad, and with it came a sort of feeling of responsibility to represent your place of origin well through good behavior, and be respectful to the place you are visiting, even as a kid i understood that without being told.

That aspect is definitely gone in the era of mass tourism. Every place can be reached quickly and for cheap, it sort of devalues the experience of travelling.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

This is all I was alluding too. Change in access is not inherently a bad thing, but it has cheapened the experience over all and expectations have changed along with it. Add in today's culture of Now Now Now and things are getting tense out there.