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The more I hear people talk about it who aren't cis-het men, the more I hear criticism about the concept. But so far, I've only heard people say that it's stupid, that it's not a thing, that it's men's own fault etc. But I've yet to understand where that criticism comes from. I don't want to start a discussion on whether or not it's real or not. I just want to understand where the critics are coming from.

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[–] lemmysquezzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

OP, I do want to start a discussion about if it is real.

It is starting to feel like selective breeding being manipulative by AI for the wealthy and religious groups. Meanwhile, we keep debating gender wars and loneliness. It would not surprise me if this wasn't manufactured through propaganda and social media. Even ironically the 6ft, blue eyes, meme was either a call for men to do better, or for women to date higher status men.

Everything is more expensive which limits the working class. Having children is prohibitively expensive. It is of little surprise that there is an entire group of men that are not just lonely, but economically outside of purview, causing loneliness. There are also trends related to formal education that would support this narrative regarding men and women. Upward mobility has shown millenials are worse off than their parents too.

To my understanding even Gen. Z is not dating to a large degree. There is also a push for young men to join the trades and not pursue higher education. So if it is not generational, what other forces are at play?

Given the exaggerated idea of a loneliness epidemic, why don't we hear about the female loneliness epidemic? How are so many men "failing" at talking to women. It's not an epidemic, it's manufactured on purpose. I also belive dating apps are being used in this campaign as well, either for profit, or more so, strict social engineering.

Tldr: I don't blame men or women, but I do explore the impact of AI and social engineering applied against the working class.

Edit: To add, what happens when you have this many single men in society, that have aged out of child rearing. I'm fearful an AI Draft is next. This is a class war.