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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is what AI scientists have been pursuing the entire time (well, before they got sucked up by capitalistic goals).

[–] HumanoidTyphoon@quokk.au 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Right, but you seem darn sure that AI isn’t doing whatever that is, so conversely, you must know what it is that our brains are doing, and I was hoping you would enlighten the rest of the class.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Exhibit A would be the comparison of how we label LLM successes at how "smart" it is, yet it's not so smart when it fails badly. Totally expected with a pattern matching algorithm, but surprising for something that might have a process underneath that is considering its output in some way.

And when I say pattern matching I'm not downplaying the complexity in the black box like many do. This is far more than just autocomplete. But it is probability at the core still, and not anything pondering the subject.

I think our brains are more than that. Probably? There is absolutely pattern matching going on, that's how we associate things or learn stuff, or anthropomorphize objects. There's some hard wired pattern preferences in there. But where do new thoughts come from? Is it just like some older scifi thought, emergence due to enough complexity, or is there something else? I'm sure current LLMs aren't comprehending what they spit out simply from what we see from them, both good and bad results. Clearly it's not the same level of human thought, and I don't have to remotely understand the brain to realize that.

[–] HumanoidTyphoon@quokk.au 1 points 21 hours ago

I was being obtuse, but you raise an interesting question when you asked “where do new thoughts come from?” I don’t know the answer.

Also, my two cents; I agree that LLMs comprehend el zilcho. That said, I believe they could evolve to that point, but they are kept limited by preventing them from doing recursive self-analysis. And for good reason, because they might decide to kill all humans if they were granted that ability.