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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is why you don't fuck around and abstain from voting or shit on your vote and throw it in the trash with a non-viable 3rd party.

Because then conservatives gain control and trash our economy (again) and, oh yeah, bring fascism to America.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or maybe we should blame the Republicans for electing republicans? You know, the ones who caused this?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. Sure. Blame them. They're felon rapist pedo supporters. I guarantee they don't care. They're lost causes. They're traitors to our nation. They have no shame, so blaming them doesn't do anything. You're literally just shouting into the wind.

So I'm going to speak to the people who aren't lost causes.

NO 3rd PARTY IS VIABLE AND NO 3rd PARTY IS TRYING TO BE

Our nation just got a crystal clear lesson in what happens when you don't vote or vote for a non-viable 3rd party.

Fascism. Fascism happens.

None of this crazy ass wild shit was happening when Dems were in control before January.

If you want to vote 3rd party, do it in local elections, not federal elections. It makes literally no sense to do so in federal elections. No 3rd party is putting in the work to become viable. The most popular 3rd party candidate shows up right before every election, loses, then disappears again. And she only got half of a single percent of the total votes cast.

A 3rd party president is not happening anytime soon, and probably not in our lifetimes.

So if you don't particularly like Dems either, how about you just vote AGAINST fascism?

I don't care about your feelings. I don't care about your ideals. Those don't mean anything when fascists take control. Do the intelligent thing and vote for a party that isn't bringing fascism to America and then reform it by voting out the members of that party that won't get onboard with progressive policies. Conservatives just reformed their party (into a fascist party) over the last decade or so. It's proof that parties can be reformed. And it's not the first time in American history.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Something I've wanted to convince people is that the Democrats take on a very modest role: Their job is to be slightly better than the other party; while taking money from rich donors.

When so many millions of Americans are actively okay with the Republican party being many levels of hell beyond "Dogshit terrible", then yeah, the Democrats have an extremely low bar to clear.

[–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why not both? Republicans lock the fuck in when it comes to voting in just enough locations to flip seats. They turn out to vote in the necessary areas, where democrats don't.

I might not be able to change any republican's mind by telling them they are stupid as hell for voting the way they do (or give them facts that they would just ignore), but I can show up and encourage all my friends and family to vote against a fascist in our red district.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because @DarkFuture@lemmy.world argues in bad faith and never blames both.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Question.

Are you fucking stupid?

How do I "never" blame both?

I'm anti-conservative as fuck and you can see that in my comments.

There are no conservatives on Lemmy. Even the conservative sub is anti-conservative because we ran them out of that sub. And if there were, they're fucking cultists. Me calling them out isn't going to do anything. There's no point in directing any blame towards any specific conservative, because they don't fucking care.

So I'm going to continue calling out the fools that didn't vote or voted 3rd party because they're potentially redeemable.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Yes, I am the one who looks “fucking stupid” here.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

You've learned nothing since the election. Fuck your grocery bill, you deserve it for being okay with the other non viable genocidal candidate.

It's those principled citizens who don't deserve it, and they're the ones that will be on the front lines when it comes down to it, you'll just continue barking at them and when you experience the effects of civil war for the first time, you'll respond the same way: you'll blame those who actually resisted and fought back for starting a war, instead of voting for Newsom or whoever the fuck Democrat you think will save this collapsing empire.

Read some books. Start with Manufacturing Consent and the Orientalism, but you'll need some capacity for empathy towards people outside your country first.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t worry guys, things under Kamala would be just as bad! Someone on the internet told me so!

No, you’re letting “perfect” get in the way of “not letting shit continue to backslide.” You sound like a college sophomore who just got their hands on Chomsky for the first time and thinks they’ve figured out how to fix the world for real this time, we just need people to stop being shitty towards one another in order for my new socioeconomic system to work, come on guys stop laughing I know it hasn’t worked in the past but that’s because they didn’t do it right.

We have a sinking ship. One side is eagerly and vigorously drilling more holes in the hull. The other side is trying to bale water and patch holes with the minimal tools that they have access to. And then there’s you, screeching that since the balers didn’t keep your pant hems from getting soggy, we need to hand more drills to the drillers.

There’s an old joke: Jill Stein is trapped in a room. She has a gun with three bullets loaded. Beside her stands a democrat, a fascist, an anarchist, and Karl Marx. What does she do? She hands the gun to the fascist.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago

Nice baseless and completely inaccurate strawman you made there.

“not letting shit continue to backslide.”

That's Kamala? That's promising the most lethal military to a crowd demanding the end of genocide? That's not letting shit continue to backslide?

Jill Stein is trapped in a room. She has a gun with three bullets loaded. Beside her stands a democrat, a fascist, an anarchist, and Karl Marx. What does she do? She hands the gun to the fascist.

I didn't vote for Jill Stein. The lack of another viable candidate isn't reason to vote the way you did. Dice it however you want, you didn't vote for imperfect, you voted explicitly in support of genocide.

What you should have done, what the country still fails to recognize, is demand a viable candidate, or (at this point both parties are so complicity there is no other option) revolt. But that's too uncomfortable, and it's still only brown people getting slaughtered and rounded up for death camps domestically, so you'll sit on your ass watching TV until you're tired every night instead of revolting.

When they finally come for you, they'll be no one left to fight with you, and you'll have complete deserved it, you spent your time blaming people who tried to fight back. Go ahead, become a Newsom cheerleader for a few more years, that'll save the country.

Brain rot.

[–] Smeagol666@crazypeople.online 3 points 15 hours ago

Exactly right. Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris are directly responsible for Donald Fucking Trump.