such a funny time for this discourse again ☕
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If you go far enough left, you get your guns back.
Sick of the constant, "Where my 2A people at?!" around here. I am right fucking here, but I'm not in much of a position to mount a personal assault on Washington DC. All I can reasonably do is defend my immigrant wife and our home if it comes to that.
FFS, some of these people even question self-defense. "They'll just kill you, moron!" Yeah, well that was on the table anyway.
And if any gun-grabbers think the cops and ICE and politicians are fascist enough as-is, imagine how they would be acting if they could kick down doors with full impunity and zero fear. Yeah, the local cops could get a squad of 20 and take this house apart. But somebody's getting hurt. I guarantee it.
Here's an interesting thought, let's see how this plays out. Florida is red enough ATM, governor and state Congress. Why haven't they passed open-carry legislation? Why isn't it even under discussion? Think they'll make it happen?
I'll give you three guesses, but you're only going to need one. Fuck no they will not legislate open carry because men like me will be at every protest with an AR-15 on my shoulder and a Colt .45 in my belt.
It's honestly crazy that we have the "right" to bear arms and the "right" to protest, but half the country cannot protest while bearing arms. Meanwhile, police are shooting people's eyes out and trampling them with horses.
Or burning them alive in houses cause they (the cops) throw flashbangs without thinking.
And there's the real case for private ownership.
If you have the choice of being disappeared and killed...or being disappeared and killed while taking a few of them with you, definitely choose the latter.
It won't help you, but if you do it, your neighbor does it, and the next 10, 20...50 people do it, eventually two things are going to happen: if it's local forces, they're gonna start needing help, and if it's not local, it forces those powers into a more difficult decision of having to either get more overt with their fascism or backing off. It's not ideal but that's pretty much the options you have.
If they want to do all the shitty fascist things, don't let them do it easily and for free. The higher ups might not care, but that local cop in the red hat might start to think twice when "his" government keeps asking him to haul away people, and each time, another of his friends goes down. If not from a place of shifting world view, then maybe from self preservation.
The analogy I go to for this concept is "the thorny vine." A single thorn is a minor inconvenience, but if one were to attempt to grab the vine and tear it down by force, then there's a lot of pain.
I tried several times in the last few days to articulate the points you're making. well said
I'm sick of the 2A people doing fuck all beyond barricading their own doors
Yeah screw those people who :: checks my notes:: cares about their family! Fucking bastards!
Yeah, fuck all of those other families!
you seem to be riding the, fuck all families, train so you don’t have a good argument here
Be the change
The fact that we have millions of people willing to barricade themselves while ready to defend their homes with weapons, is what will keep this tyrannical administration from knocking down random doors and dragging people out for looking at porn or leftist youtubers.
Nobody, NOBODY in the US wants to be the one breaking down the door of another US citizen, because everyone knows how many people are ready to open fire.
It's not ideal, but it's what we have.
If you think it would be better to "rise up" and form an armed revolution... you're insane and dumb. They have fucking missiles and tanks.
Lol
Well thought out rebuttal, I didn't have time to read it all but I will try to address each point later.
You typed up all them words in a country where citizens are getting disappeared right now
so your argument seems to be, ‘there are 2a people not sacrificing their lives to murder my enemies, curious…’
seems to me that in order for the next step to happen there needs to be an armed movement, which you are actively are at this moment suppressing. there needs to be more guns in progressive hands, and a collective movement else it’s just sparkling mad gunman, and thoughts and prayers.
and i guarantee you would be the first to claim the shooter would be a republican plant
And the best thing you can do to prevent that is to keep a fucking gat pointed at your door when they come, and that way we turn a potential takeover of our nation into a house-to-house meat grinder, effectively preventing that kind of action.
You are not going to win an offensive game, no matter how many people you recruit to throw their lives away in the face of machine guns and ordinance. It's delusional roleplay thinking from watching too many movies or youtubers who make careers on LARPing.
Well what ya do is meet up at protests and devise some shenanigans