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About Tesla
Tesla Inc. (formerly Tesla Motors) is an energy + technology company originally from California and currently headquartered in Austin, Texas.
They produce electric vehicles (with a heavy focus on autonomy), batteries, and energy/solar products for the grid.
Tesla’s mission is to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy.
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Hey want this stranger who randomly can't see things to drive you somewhere?
They've only killed like 60 people before, and injured hundreds of others, but that's pretty good in the grand scheme right? How many have you killed?
Go on, 60 deaths isn't that bad! Trust them.
That's a terrible argument that actually makes Tesla's fsd sound better than it is in reality. Because it makes me think "well how many miles has it driven compared to how many miles a typical person drives?"
To be clear: Tesla's fsd system is garbage, unsafe, shouldn't be allowed on the road, is a complete lie, and has no possible route to become viable. But the tesla system has presumably driven a massive amount more miles than most people will ever drive, so you can't compare number of road deaths caused tesla fsd vs. how many killed by any single human being
Also, according to Youtuber Ben Jordan's video about self driving cars, Tesla FSD has 11.3 deaths per 100 million miles... Human drivers have just 1.35 deaths per 100 million miles.
See now THAT'S the good argument
"That's a bad argument because it makes me stan for Tesla" also isn't a good argument - for me.
Truth is different people find different arguments good, argumentation is enough of an artform that it's subjective.
So how about we all present our own arguments against Tesla, and then just be happy no one is arguing for them (except kinda you, just now).
The point is all Teslas have the same programming, and YES that programming can absolutely get you killed. Solution: don't die a victim of your car. Don't buy Tesla. Drive yourself instead.