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[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The attacks against mamdani and Cuomo admitting he's aligned with trump have really made it crystal clear that the DNC are wolves in sheeps clothing. Reading about that broke the last bit of hope I had that this country has a chance

This country will never escape because both major parties are 2 sides of the same coin

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More like the two components of a ratchet

diagram representing the ratchet effect in US politics

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

taps sign yup. its gross that democrats are now trying to make trump-adjacent garbage the new centrist position.

It's the billionaire class that's doing that. The DNC is just their puppet.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The next chance to significantly change the USA is when online social networks evolve enough to allow community politics to have a resurgence. Maybe in a few years.

Until then, the best possible outcome is stagnation

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Corporate social media will never allow that, because their owners don’t want community politics, they want capitalist politics.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Exactly, that is why decentralized or federated social media, or its descendants - what it evolves into - is so valuable.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Shame that lemmy has basically been taken over by neoliberals

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In hindsight this is not surprising at all, I would argue that it is the social duty of all developers to assist with such things.

[–] 14specks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm so disappointed with the state of tech and the way the "FOSS movement" as flawed as it can be at times is so weak.

Not surprised though, it was just a matter of time (about a decade) after the capital started really flowing that everything was required to go to shit.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I do not understand all the changes in tech, so much new happens each day. Some changes each day are good. But like you imply, much bad happens daily. I say daily because millions contribute.

But change is the only constant here. And a state of constant flux, historically, is not helpful to the ruling classes. Its not that helpful to the workers either. But the stage is not set for one to win over the other yet.

We have a few decades before nano technology ensures the wealthy will win. It will be a challenge between that, and climate change. Surely we are in the most decisive moments of human evolution, and world history for life. There are so many ways to fail, and only a few to succeed.

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

broken heart emojis in the chat

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Not really, for reasons I don’t have time to get into rn.

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 6 points 23 hours ago

Reddit API and it consequences

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i wonder if it is though, considering that fact that we have captured federated instances like .world or discord that have as much dominance in all the fediverse islands like the lemmyverse as something like reddit or facebook has on all of centralized social media.

even if we were to somehow remove the influence of neoliberal controlled platforms on the fediverse; the rest of the fediverse doesn't even mention currently active movements like the "music festivals" taking place all over the united states that centralized social media is struggling to suppress due to the sheer volume of supporters.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Yes, and the way to solve this is to develop the platforms more. I tend to think of the fediverse as a work in progress, and will be maybe the grandparent of better networks that have less failings. Certainly it is a necessary step.

We can help by both supporting the current iterations: either in funding or programming or just using it. And thinking of the next steps

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

they and are closing down the internet and electronics much further recently precisely to avoid that. they don't want any more opposition to their genocides, and won't let this happen.

shit, they already did some of that back when social media was freer and let people organized like that. it only happened briefly in the first place because they didn't predict it would.

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Social media

allow community politics

Why would they allow something in the future they could do right now but choose not to?

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think its not so much a "they" than a breakdown in society structure.

Since the 1980s, a lot has changed in the workplace and industry. Computers were only part of it. Globalization of industry happened. Most people in many countries changed jobs and careers at least once, if not more. In the UK, Japan, Germany, etc the population moved around some. In the USA, the population moved around a lot, at much greater distances than most other countries.

In the USA, this change uprooted many families, friendship networks, community ties. People started to socialize less with their neighbors. There were less community activities. At the same time, interest and participation in municipal and very local politics collapsed. People started to pay almost exclusive attention to state and national politics.

New political parties and grassroots only come from local politics. The internet so far has not been a replacement for what was lost in a sense of community. This is why there are no significant protest or street movements by any political group in the USA. The mechanisms are broken.

The only way to have significant interest in local politics again is to either grow the internet in new ways, or to abandon it. Until then, there is a vacuum in politics, which is exploited by the rich. It is not a coincidence that this time is also when the wealth disparity increased dramatically.

There cannot be a socialist revolution, new parties, or even a mild reform of current politics, until there is a greater sense of community in the USA.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

you're describing social atomization and it was a natural progression of intentional social pushes from institutional policies put in place by both gov't, public, and private institutions since it the 1970's. It all came about as responses to the counter culture revolutions of the 1960's and the union dominance in the 1950's and done in order to have greater political control of various segments of the population by slicing them up into smaller and smaller cohorts using what we call "culture wars" today. examples of the private institutions doing this includes organizations like the heritage foundation which created project 2025 and examples of public institutions doing this are the gop which captured the evangelical vote during the 70's; both of which have direct control to impose institutional policies on the gov't.