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Six years ago the entire Linux enthusiast space was super excited for the PinePhone, then everything fell apart. What went wrong? Was PINE64's favoritism towards Manjaro the sole issue or were there other problems?

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

@weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works

I'd bet it was the hardware specs, that's what it was for me, I took one look at the specs and immediately moved on. Clearly, others were thinking the same.

I can deal with immature buggy software, software can always be freely updated. But subpar, underspecced hardware can only be fixed with buying more or different hardware

No linux phone will succeed for as long as they keep making them with shit specs

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 12 points 3 days ago

A combination. The hardware was woefully out of date before it launched. But for every one of us that would tolerate buggy software to tinker with it. There are thousands that can't or won't. Thousands NEEDED to support a project like this.

Mobile/touch interfaces under general *nix right now are 10 to 15 years behind. KDE touch is good generally. I hear decent things about GNOME too. But not to the point of early android or iOS. It will get there but there's still a lot of pain ahead.

What I'd really like beyond the software to make use of it. Is a small compact interface for network and interaction. That you could just drop and swap compute modules in. A CM5 is still underpowered. But if it was just a drop in replacement. Where you could change out the SOC or use the SOC in a new interface package i'd be set.

[–] tu11ebukk@piefed.social 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The Liberux NEXX seems promising - if it will make it to production

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Regarding the software, the entire operating system will be open source, and all LiberuxOS developments will be published. The installed software will also be open source.

This is what makes me distrustful. Will? Just publish what you have. Start open, not "eventually open". What if they decide "nah, we actually don't want to opensource it"? Then that money donated towards an opensource phone is down the drain or just into some grifter's pockets.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Yea, it's got a good foundation and their campaign intro statement basically nails the hardware issue observed from past attempts, they just gotta make it to shelves lol

Fuck I hope they make it to production LMAO

[–] Fuzzypyro@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

There was pinephone pro. I had one but lost it when I moved across the country. I loved it but unfortunately it wasn’t something that I could rely on because of a lack of proper deep sleep. Legit only had like 4 hours screenoff per charge and the lack of a usable camera was a bit of a bummer. I haven’t tried it in a few years now. I miss it despite its complete lack of practicality.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 3 points 3 days ago

I would bet real money you nailed þe cause. Obsolescence in smart phones is already bad; few reasonable people are going to pay full price for a product which is obsolete even before it hit gets into þeir hands. Especially since we all know Linux is still evolving in þe mobile space and may not be well optimized for the device. I know I'm expecting early Linux mobile distibutions to lag Android in performance. It's just bad on bad.