MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Awhile back I reposted an anti-soviet meme to like 7 Tankie comms and also Flippanarchy on DB0.
Can you guess which one got the most hate and a ban?
IDK if the entirety of DB0 is just a Tankie charade but I do know if it were then it wouldn't operate any differently than it does currently.
They've gotten very strange in the past year or so. I've seen multiple dbzer0 users, including two admins, do complete 180s on tankie bullshit, and it's rather bizarre.
My best guess is that tankies offer them a sense of community, which is how many terminally online folk get drawn into it. People who have a deep desire for community will overlook moral issues if invited to be a part of that community, and even adopt, consciously or unconsciously, those positions in order to better 'fit in' with the community.
In a time when the real world is more recognizably hostile than ever, or at least for as long as most of us here have been alive (insofar as we are both aware of it and noting that it is backsliding rather than improving), online communities probably seem quite tempting to hew closer to.
I think it's your usual anarchist thinking they're stronger together with a tankie, little do they know that the tankies will eat them every single time
I doubt practical considerations have anything to do with it.
idk, the historical analogies here seem like a trend line trying to form, there's gotta be some kind of sourcing to it.
Tankies say nice words to anarchists when out of power
Naive anarchists fall for it, while wise anarchists do not [WE ARE HERE]
Just enough naive anarchists are peeled off from opposition to tankies that anarchist forces under the smart guys, gals, and enby pals, are overwhelmed by the tankies when push comes to shove
Tankies collapse to liberals peddling "The state, but slightly less atrocious"
Anarchists begin searching for allies under a liberal regime which despises them, but is non-totalitarian enough that meaningful organizing is possible
Tankies say nice words to anarchists when out of power...
Sorry I've got my airpods in, did they say something?
They've always been like that. Remember how they stuck to hexbear close to the reddit exodus? Most instances were calling to defed them so the dbzer0 users wanted the same but they were denied because "some of the hexbear users are worth talking to", so basically endure the rest of the deranged users so they can keep federating with a couple of decent ones.
Imo, it's just a bunch of technobros waving a fake anarchy flag and using that as an excuse for everything they do.