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Note: This issue only applies to Nvidia, AMD users can have a completely different versions of Mesa installed on their system and in Flatpak. Nvidia drivers are closed source and they ship both the kernel and userspace drivers as one with no backwards compatibility so Flatpak must always use the exact same version as the system.
Praise AMD
I just built a new system and named it gloria_allred because it’s the first time in forever that I’ve used AMD cpu and gpu, so it’s all red.
Sadly, there's close to no AMD dGPU laptops, at least in my area. And the 3 or so models that exist are wildly more expensive...
Part of the reason for that is because their iGPUs are actually worth gaming on, see: Steam Deck and both the PS5 and Xbox Series consoles.
It's so-so, tbh.
I looked up the best AMD iGPU, and that seems to be the Radeon 8060S. That one is, from what I can see, about on par with the 4070 laptop. In gaming, it's a bit worse. In other workloads, it's a bit better.
But the cheapest laptop I can find with an 8060S is some HP Zbook Ultra G1a for €2800. I got my Lenovo LOQ with a 4070 for €900.
AMD has learned that laptop gamers don't give a shit about anything that's not Nvidia. Their dGPU laptop solutions were never desirable for the general market, so they've instead started focussing a lot more on stronger APUs.
It's (almost) always Nvidia.
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